I've gotten plenty of interesting comments from the Left in relation to my Cindy Sheehan post. I was polite and respectful of the woman, but it seems that any hint of criticism of the woman regarded by the Bush-haters as "Saint Cindy, Our Lady of the Martyred Son" is grounds for savage (and anonymous) hate speech.
One of the perps posting such attacks on my site appears to be our old friend Ridor, though he denies making the post while claiming he watched someone else do it (*******************).
Look what the guy posted on his site.
Malkin, Drudge, LGF and RWR: When Cindy Sheehan asked for GW Bush to come out of his reclusive Crawford Ranch for few minutes of talk, to have the normal conversation. Show some compassion for the mother of a dead soldier. After all, he is on his 50th vacation in 5 years (10 per years!), he said he wanted a vacation to "reconnect with his folks in Texas" -- this is his chance to be normal and be civilized. Apparently, no. GW Bush dispatched his supporters like Matt "Roehmosexual" Drudge, Michelle "Chink Bitch" Malkin, Little Green Snotballs, that nobody's prick, Rhymes with Right to assault the mother of a dead soldier of her simple request to meet and talk with GW Bush on a casual level.It is interesting to note that these people did not mention that the secret service agents made an indirect threat that they will arrest the mother because she is the "threat to the national security". Wow, GW Bush is the national figure? Please!
That Roehmosexual, Matt Drudge did this on persistent level, obviously because he regarded her as an annoyance that can bring the downfall of GW Bush's popularity. His current polls are at an all-time low, which is good for me.
That "Chink Bitch" Malkin had the guts to speak for Casey Sheehan, Cindy's dead son -- she said that Casey would be embarrassed of his mother. Excuse me, Michelle, you do not know Casey like Cindy does -- you just write and spew your fucking dumb-ass rhetoric, claiming to speak for people who has nothing to do with you!
As for RWR, he is just an idiot from Texas. Simply put. He claimed that GW Bush did meet Cindy last year. Yes, in front of media! In front of hundreds of persons, but not one on one. Compassion! Compassion! Franklin Delano Roosevelt did it. Abraham Lincoln did it. JFK did it. Bill Clinton attended the dead soldiers' funerals. Did GW Bush? No. GW Bush joked by calling Cindy, "Mom" and even asked his assistant, "Who are they?" -- implied that GW Bush is a buffoon and do not care at all.
GW Bush and his Republican cronies knew the art of media, thanks to the Nixon debacle, to use against the mass. How? To pretend. To stand and pose for 5 minutes so that the pictures can be taken, then when it's over, the families are out due to the "national security". No time for a normal conversation between a true citizen and the nation's President. But he has time to have 50 vacations in 5 years. No conservatives and Republicans will disseminate why GW Bush has 50 vacations in 5 years, but they are willing to destroy the grieving mother of a dead soldier.
How great is it?
First, let me thank you for putting me in the same category as Drudge, Malkin and Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs. I'm honored just to be on some of the the same blogrolls as them, and here you are mentioning me in the same sentence as them for our parts in the conspiracy to defame Mrs. Sheehan that Karl Rove is orchestrating from his Secret Rose Garden Bunker. I'm flattered beyond words that you rate my writing, influence, and importance so high.
Now let me point out that you managed to get a pair of two-fers in your post. Calling the lovely and multi-talented Ms. Malkin a "Chink Bitch" is clearly the first, covering the bases as racist and sexist at the same time. Based upon your subsequent communications with me (which appears below), I have to classify your reference to Matt Drudge as a "Roehmosexual" (my reason for believing that you dictated the comment even if ****** typed it) qualifies as both homophobic and anti-Semitic. Good job. Curiously enough, you failed to find a slur of any kind for Mr. Johnson of LGF, which iis a sign that the quality of your posts is slipping --you usually find at least one intolerant epithet to direct at anyone with whom you disagree. As for my "prick", you lack the necessary clearance to have any information about it.
Now I posted a response in your comments section -- which you promptly deleted. So much for your advertising it as "the Unsafe Zone of Personal Attacks -- Which Means, Fire Away With Your Insults" (proofreading tip -- you don't need that comma).
But you did decide to respond to me at my email address.
From: Ridor [ridor9th@gmail.com]
To: XXXXX [rhymeswithright@gmail.nospam.com]
Date: Aug 12, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: hey
fyi, ur comment has been deleted as expected.
You accused me of racism, sexism and homophobia -- that is ludicrous. Michelle Malkin called Deaf people "deaf-mute" -- my emails to her has not been responded and she continued to slander Deaf people as "deaf-mute" which is very offensive to start with. So for that, I reserve the right to retaliate back with a "Chink" comment. Deal with it, you fat boy.
Matt Drudge is gay, period. He is quick to accuse and out many people -- even people who questioned GW Bush, Matt was swift to out the person's sexuality -- but what if he was Jewish, will he do the same thing? No. Therefore I reserve the right to call him Roehmosexual.
Sexism? What?
And you fell for McCock's comments -- I *did* not write on your blogsite -- I read, yes, and in fact, someone IN my apartment responded to your comments while I stood and laughed. Rest assured, it was NOT me who commented on your blogsite. After all, who wants to touch your blogsite? Certainly not me.
Please be delusional and remain in your little world with your friends like McWeenie.
R-
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The One and Only Ridor
Check www.ridor.blogspot.com -- be very afraid.
What can I say? Ms. Malkin gets copious amounts of email. We know that you rarely disagree with anyone in a polite or pleasant fashion. Why would you expect her to take the time to bother writing back.? How does that justify racist and sexist abuse directed at her? It doesn't -- but more on that later.
And then there is Drudge. You insist the guy is gay. I don't know, and don't really care. I respect his right to keep his private life as private as he wants it -- something that was supposed to be a sacred right for homosexuals, according to all the gay advocacy groups. I'm not aware of his having outed anyone over politics (that tends to be the province of hate-mongering gay activists), but I'm sure you can point to his having linked to some story or other from some publication that did so. What is particularly amusing is that you were part of the political feeding frenzy over Jeff Gannon's sexual orientation, so I don't see where you have any room to criticize. And given your reference to Drude's religion, it is clear that you intended the homophobic rhetoric to be laced with anti-Semitism as well. Good job!
As for your comments about me, I challenge anyone reading this to look at my one and only post on Mrs. Sheehan and explain to me how it constituted an attack -- unless discussing an unflattering piece of news is an attack.
Now I won't go into any discussion of the claims you advance on behalf of Mrs. Sheehan. I'm not going to engage in a tit-for-tat game over it. I have, until today, believed that she is being used. I'm not so sure about that any more, based upon some MSM articles I've come across -- but I want to show her son respect by not attacking her.
I think I've already made clear my position on the comments that I continue to believe you wrote -- if you didn't write them, you dictated them to someone else or used voice recognition software. Your explanation reminds me of another famous denial -- "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky."
I can think of only one explanation for the hate that seethes through your writing. It has to be rooted in your childhood.
Now no doubt your early socialization as a child raised by a Klan of inbred hate-mongers in the backwoods of the Appalachians leads you to believe that such bigotry is acceptable in polite society. It isn't -- **************.
Oh, and by the way -- what is your fascination with the penises of conservative heterosexual males like me and McConnell that leads you to comment on them so frequently? Is it desire, envy, or simply another feature of your warped personality that leads you to engage in on-line sexual harrassment? Just curious.
UPDATE: You will notice a couple of spots where I have substituted a chain of asterisk for previously posted material. I made several gratuituous comments in this post which were snarky and hurtful -- and which do not do me credit. They also seem to have cut Ridor very deeply in a way I never intended. I've removed them in realization that I may have crossed a line with them. I won't post the emails, as Ridor made it quite clear they were intended to be private.
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Ha. Pure classic!
See "Mr. Anonymous" get caught in "From the Ashes" blog (May 5, 2004). This is his M.O. when he gets banned or try to go below the radar to attack somebody else. Very brave fellow. Should see his credentials on the number of places he got banned...even from gay sites.
I got his anonymous hits on my blog, too. The same IP addresses as seem in the FTA blog as well.
BTW, I did see your first comment post in the Haloscan on Ridor's blogsite. I had to chuckle over that one. Let's see if the other two comments will hold up.
Next, you'll be called by him a F*ng Neocon Hearie. As if "hearie" is a derogative word. Better than "deafie."
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 12:00 AM ||BTW, never, never correct a Deaf person's (capital "D" denotes culturally deaf that use American Sign Language) spelling, grammar or syntax. Else you'd be called something pretty nasty in return. Goes with the territory of Deaf Culture because it's like talking to a "wall."
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 12:07 AM ||When he starts to post in ASL, I'll gladly leave off the corrections. But if he is going to post in English, the standard rules do apply (which is guaranteed to get Ridor's panties in a was, since he doesn't believe any rules apply to him).
I was, though, simply offering a helpful critique -- the former English teacher in me was just so irked by that comma that I had to offer assistance, even at th risk of sounding a bit snarky in that aside.
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, August 13, 2005 12:37 AM ||Of course, you know I was being facetious? Although the reaction is real in the Deaf world regarding public correction over their grammar, syntax, etc..
Problem seems to stem from ASL being the French grammatical equivalent since sign language was borrowed from the France as the source of ASL today.
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 01:36 AM ||Ah. That explains why I thought he wasn't a native English speaker.
What an ass. Does he really think the president gets a real vacation like regular people, where he can turn off the cell phone and be incommunicado for days at a time?
As far as Cindy Sheehan goes, if I'd been killed in the Gulf and my mother had pulled some nonsense like that, *I'd* have been embarassed. If Casey was any kind of soldier, the last thing he'd have wanted was for his own mother to demean his sacrifice. Which is exactly what she's doing.
|| Posted by Curtis G., August 13, 2005 04:00 AM ||When I fired an email to you, Greg, it was sloppy one because I was in hurry to leave the house to meet a friend down the street.
When I fired an email to you, it was simply directed to you one-on-one. In fact, I'm offended that you posted my email without my consent.
Let me explain a bit more about my friend -- Cody is his name. I'm Ricky, okay? Much to your disbelief, he is moderate Republican! But he found your comments which I showed to Cody very inane and offensive. Cody asked me if he could type some stuff, I told him that I already told you a while ago that I do not want to come back because I noticed that McWeenie has been using many blogs including yours to attack me -- if someone made a comment, he won't say anything -- but if I made a comment, he will say something.
Cody pleaded -- I told him to delete my SN and insert his -- I was sitting next to him -- if you knew my computer, it is right next to wide-screen, flat-screen TV on the wall. Cody showed me the comments -- I laughed and said, "Add that, blah, blah." He laughed. I thought Cody added his own SN. Then few hours later after Cody left, I surfed and noticed that Cody did not sign his name -- whee.
There are few things I wanted to address with you, Greg -- that is the next post.
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|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 13, 2005 06:14 AM ||Okay, accusing me of barebacking is highly offensive and slanderous, Greg! Sex is natural. I embrace it, but to bareback? No, that is Andrew Sullivan's type -- I do not do that. Call me fat, ugly et al is fine but to presume that I bareback is very offensive, IMO.
At first, Cindy Sheehan came to Crawford of HER free will, what she did was sincere. Of course, it won the Americans' heart. The conservatives and Republicans viewed this as a threat -- which is why many Conservatives went out on an assault to bash Cindy. I'm sorry, Malkin, you, LGF and Drudge did not meet Casey. Cindy knew him better than y'all.
I emailed Malkin twice about her repeated use of "deaf-mute" in NY POST, no response. Later, I found out that a friend of mine emailed her, giving her a compliment -- she responded quickly. That means what? She is deliberately discarding my request not to use "deaf-mute", a term that the Deaf people felt is negative. It is my belief that if one did not care, it's better to offend one to teach them a lesson -- thus, "chink bitch".
By the way, Cody is not my sexual contact, he is straight moderate Republican!
Roehmosexual refers to gay men who are self-loathing homosexuals who plays with men but advocated the anti-gay laws or chase after power for themselves. Drudge fits in that category along with Roy Cohn and many others. Roehmosexual is named after Ernst Roehm, a gay Nazi who supported Hitler until Hitler had him killed anyway. It is not anti-semitic.
My argument is that Drudge is famous for antics that derailed the careers or reputations of people whose he disagreed, disliked et al. If this particular is Democrat and is in the closet and yet supports whatever bill that may impact us all (I'm making an example, okay?), Drudge will *not* hesitate to tell the world that he's gay in order to discredit his efforts. He will not hesitate to do that, but will he do that to Democrats who are Jews or Blacks? Like, "He's Jewish Democrat" -- Drudge will not do that. But with gays? He will do it at all costs in order to preserve his Republican beliefs. That is why I termed him as Roehmosexual.
I surfed a little on LGF and was turned off by his relentless bashings on Sheehan. I told Cody to make fun of you, Drudge, Malkin but I could not say much for LGF because I do not read his stuff enough to suggest a word.
Comma? So ****ing what. My first language is ASL -- English is a language that I try my best to do well -- sometimes I run into a wall. My weakness are comma, fragmented sentences and few other things. Look, it is already degrading to deal with people who criticized, mocked or degraded others based on their English skills. For years, I had to deal with people who were simply rude and abrasive -- in many message boards, when I debated with hearing people and seemed to be winning -- it is common that hearing people would be flabbergasted and changed the subject to attack my English skills to humiliate me. I guess over the years, I became cynical.
(con't)
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 13, 2005 06:46 AM ||Actually, I have some friends who are Republicans and Conservatives -- but they are not abrasive or condescending like you and McWeenie, both of you came across bashing Liberals -- suppose if I tripped and got a scratch on my knee, it's Liberals' fault. Reading both of your blogs are pretty sad, an entry after an entry bashing anyone who is not in your group but often went silent when something is wrong with your group.
Sheehan is one example. You were muted for nearly a week then when you see many Conservatives going after her, you jump on the bandwagon and bashed the mother of a dead soldier -- you said you had the right to question her motives -- yes, you are correct but why now instead of last week?
That is what Cody told me that he finds it deplorable that the Conservatives are doing it RIGHT NOW instead of doing it in the first place. This would NOT happen if GW Bush send Laura to chat with Cindy as Mother to Mother -- that would be great, IMO. But nothing at all.
You insisted that Drudge reserve the right to keep his private life as he wants it, but you know the cliche, people who lives in glass house should not throw stones!
Sacred for homosexuals? Perhaps for self-loathing homosexuals, ex-gays, Roehmosexuals and men who claimed to be straight but went to adult bookstores valued the privacy -- to me, it is not healthy, I'm out. I do not hide anything. I enjoy life as it comes by.
I do not know whether if Drudge is jewish or not, perhaps in the last comment that Cody made did not address this clearly -- Cody said that Drudge would NOT do that to black or jewish leader to discredit, but with gays, it is permissible. That's why Cody finds it deplorable and I agreed with him!
Rooted in childhood? Please.
Now I find your snide comments about my congenital deafness very offensive. Take it back. I am fortunate to be in a long line of Deaf generations. And no, it is not inbred as you would like it to be.
As for fascination with the penises of conservative heterosexual males -- actually, my female friend nicknamed it for McWeenie after he hurts her feelings and from there, nearly all of my friends used that on him. No fascination at all as you wished it to be.
And I will not comment on McConnell's rants.
R-
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 13, 2005 06:57 AM ||Ridor, you ALWAYS comment on McConnells rants. I think that's because on some level he makes too much sense to you and it just annoys you. Otherwise you'd just ignore him.
That's what I do to stupid people. Like you. :-)
|| Posted by Sherry, August 13, 2005 08:36 AM ||"I told Cody to make fun of you, Drudge, Malkin..."
Enuff said. Dictated, borrowed and with your permission while Ridor stood next to Cody...laughing. Not much a difference there. Just as anonymous, too.
Oh, as for Cody being a "moderate Republican" sure doesn't jive with the "Roehmosexual" comments, bashing Drudge, whine about Pres. Bush "50 vacations" (which are working vacations btw still on duty 24/7), and so on all within the same context as Ridor's own blog. "Cody" sure sounds like a Liberal to me with an attitude that jives well with Ridor's, along with his past M.O. to surreptiously post anonymous comments in other people's blogs certainly do not help a person's credibility here, much less believe what Ridor writes as being "sincere" other than being real sincere on name calling and derogatory remarks.
Actions like those described above can easily ruin a person's credibility. Hence, one of the reason why he has been banned from several other blogsites because of his antics.
Now, I've always called Ridor by his name or "R" rather than to use phallus-oriented derogatory name consistently so or any other name calling on a consistent basis. Persist in the use of derogatory names is an indication on the lack of seriousness or credibility to have a logical debate even if it means running into a wall when both can agree to disagree. Hence, the Liberal's seemingly preferred method on how to "logically" debate an issue is to toss the first Molotov cocktail instead. Once that happens then there is no sense to hope for a reasonable and rational discussion.
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 10:33 AM ||continued..
RWR was rational and respectfull in his approach about the Sheehan controversy. This is something I like about RWR's blogging.
AGain, Ridor has failed to acknowledge in this post (and elsewhere) that RWR was respectfull toward Sheehan's grieving while at the same time condoned "Cody's" action who made fun of RWR. Ridor also falsely attributed RWR's article as an "assault" on Sheehan to this day with no apology in sight. Questioning Sheehan's motives or the MSM's motive and agenda on using her as a poster girl does not constitute as an "assault" when RWR deferred to Sheehan's own grieving on the loss of her loving son with respect.
Would it been easier for RWR to have banned Ridor instead so he'll have something to rant about? RWR offered Ridor an olive branch and welcomed Ridor to come and post anytime. Instead he called RWR a "prick" and that was uncalled for. Perhaps Ridor at times misunderstands people's written context to mean something else since Ridor admitted as having an English problem? Anger issues seems to be the common theme here with Ridor's posting and blogging. This is what gets him into trouble and how people perceive him as the ultimate crybaby while his precious "Bitch Session" bloggings are quite telling at the same time.
I was right that Deaf people are sensitive about their English problem. It's not a mystery to me but other people do not realize this. I warned the people here that to correct a Deaf person's grammar would sure to bring a response or an excuse.
Ridor wanted RWR's apology based on his written comments but yet he never acknowledged his own attack against RWR by using a phallus name and falsely accused him of "assaulting" Sheehan in his blog article and in RWR's comment section. Where's the apology rightly deserved for RWR by Ridor's antics?
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 10:35 AM ||Offended that he posted your personal email, Rider?
You have an (out-of-context) quote permanently emblazoned on your site that I sent you privately.
You, my friend are a hypocrite.
|| Posted by Dale, August 13, 2005 12:58 PM ||Sheehan has indeed become a tool for the wacky anti-war left fringe: In a recent diatribe, she says (to the president):
"You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of Pax Americana, imperialism in the Middle East. You tell me that, you don't tell me my son died for freedom and democracy.
Cuz, we're not freer. You're taking away our freedoms. The Iraqi people aren't freer, they're much worse off than before you meddled in their country.
You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine."
Link: http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110007102
|| Posted by Hube, August 13, 2005 01:00 PM ||*clap clap* Bravo. You made my day. Seems like Sherry spoke for me:
"I think that's because on some level he makes too much sense to you and it just annoys you."
Top it off being called racist, sexist, and homophobic. Ridor's a liar, copyright infringer, plagarist, and lastly, a bull**** artist.
|| Posted by Amy, August 13, 2005 04:38 PM ||Amy, still jealous after these years. That's what you get for marrying dickwad.
LOL.
Thanks for the email, Greg. At least, I do not have to deal with narrow-minded people like Sherry and McWeenie.
R-
R-
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 13, 2005 06:37 PM ||Oh, by the way, Sherry, you do not make any sense -- please keep wagging your tail for McWeenie. You Borg freak.
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|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 13, 2005 06:41 PM ||FYI: "Borg freak" is a reference to Sherry's cochlear implant or C.I. that is designed to help her hear much better. Ridor vehemently opposes such devices.
Hube: Exactly. I wonder if Sheehan missed the recent Iraq's voting success with all those ink-stained purple fingers by proud Iraqis? None of that democracy and freedom to vote whom ever they want would not have been possible without the coalition's help.
|| Posted by mcconnell, August 13, 2005 10:58 PM ||Ridor, it never ceases to amaze me how narrow -minded and intolerant you are.
Amy makes a choice that goes against your belief about the "right" way to deal with deafness, so you find it necessary to insult and harrass her.
I suppose you have a problem with amputees or those born without a limb using an artificial one.
Do you object to glasses and contact lenses, too?
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, August 13, 2005 11:57 PM ||RWR, what the **** are you talking about?
Sherry is merely a dog responding to McWeenie's commands, just like the Borg -- and she happens to be CI'ized.
And McWeenie twisted as usual -- if people wanted to implant on themselves, more power to them.
But Greg, what the **** are you talking about Amy? If you knew the whole story, Amy was the one who harassed me for more than a year, accusing me of things that I had nothing to do with.
She dedicated her three blogs to defame my character. And you, Greg, had the gall to say that I find it necessary to insult and harass her?
Unbelievable.
R-
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 14, 2005 02:15 AM ||I seem to recall some negative comment about individuals with a CI in the past (I believe in a discussion of a former student), hence my willingness to believe the alternate intepretation. To the degree that I am wrong in doing so, you have my apology.
As for Amy and her blogs, there is a reason I do not read them with any frequency. "Irrational obsession" seems to be the best description of the feud that is going on(it applies to all parties), and I don't know why it isn't dropped in the interest of happier, more fulfilled lives.
For that matter, let me say that I enjoy having all involved in this thread around and commenting, but I wish that whatever "relationship issies" exist between you all would be played out elsewhere. I would hate to have to take more authoritarian measures to require that to happen.
|| Posted by Rhym es With Right, August 14, 2005 08:49 AM ||Greg, I completely agreed with you -- I did my best to tell her to move on with her life and be productive rather than to harass me with these blogs that does nothing to be proud of. She won't give up.
You're right about "irrational obsession" -- I seem to gather some kind of angry readers who then went on to harass me from day one. At times, it amused me. At times, I rolled my eyes and say, "Let it go already."
R-
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 14, 2005 04:10 PM ||Ridor, as usual... AGAIN, I asked him to show me proof.
"If you knew the whole story, Amy was the one who harassed me for more than a year, accusing me of things that I had nothing to do with.
She dedicated her three blogs to defame my character. And you, Greg, had the gall to say that I find it necessary to insult and harass her?"
3 blogs! Again, you have consistenly refused to show us proof. Only one blog is merely dedicated to his stupidity - deaflife.blogspot.com. This blog shows proof of of Ridor's racism, sexism, jpegs that caught him red-handed lying, libel, and all stuffs that scums are known to be.
Again, where's the proof!
|| Posted by Amy, August 14, 2005 05:00 PM ||Amy, Ridor, and McConnell --
All of you have been asked to take the personal dispute elsewhere. Like I said, ALL PARTIES to this dispute seem to have something of an irrational obsession with each other. I'm pleased to have you comment here, but whatever issues you have away from my site need to stay away off of my site.
Ridor, you were pretty tempered in your comments, but I would have preferred you didn't take that parting shot.
And Amy, you are right -- I do not know the whole story. If you wish to email privately, I'll be glad to hear your side of the story. But I do not what it rehashed in my comment section. I do not think it is too much to ask.
And McConnell, you know I appreciate your presence and comments, but this would be one time when I would appreciate your silence in response to a particular issue. Your private email to me indicates that is your plan, but I'm putting this request here so no one thinks i am playing favorites and calling out only two of the three.
|| Posted by , August 14, 2005 06:07 PM ||One last thing to Amy:
The proof? You knew the links -- do not bother to deny it, you cunt. I can give the links to RWR and he'll see that it is YOU all along. Get a life.
Go away -- I already told you many times NOT to bother me with your insistence of "proof" while you already knew it all along.
R-
|| Posted by Me is the Ridor, August 14, 2005 08:27 PM ||I said ENOUGH!
I'm closing the thread.
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