Of all the unmitigated gall! A Muslim group is attempting to make a Catholic school to operate according to Muslim principles.
AN ISLAMIC campaign group has called for a Catholic primary school to be based on the Muslim faith.The Campaign for Muslim Schools said 90 per cent of pupils at St Albert's Primary, in the Pollokshields area of Glasgow, are Muslim, yet children are having to take part in Catholic rituals like saying the Lord's Prayer and attending mass.
Osama Saeed, co-ordinator of the alliance of Glasgow's main mosques and Muslim organisations, said he could see no reason why the main faith of the school should not change.
He said: "Clearly the parents of that area find a faith school, even if it is of another denomination, preferable to a secular one. But surely it should be possible for them to have one that is relevant to their own faith.
"To move towards this would be a fantastic example of good faith - in more ways than one - on the part of the Church."
The call came just days after Scotland's most senior Catholic, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, sparked controversy by stating that Scotland's core faith was Christianity and that other faiths should recognise they were "living in Scotland as a Christian country". A spokesman for the Catholic Church in Scotland was not available for comment tonight.
Listen up, Osama -- it is a Catholic school. If you want a Muslim school, go out and start one of your own. Don't demand that some other religious body show you some "good faith" by apostasizing to your false religion. You are one arrogant bastard, and I suggest you remember that you ae in a predominantly Christian country where you have rights that no Christian would ever be allowed in a country dominated by Islam.
And to the bishops of Scotland, might I suggest that you get a herd of these and turn them loose in the school yard of every Catholic school in the country?
Then again, perhaps what Osama and the Campaign for Muslim Schools need are a visit from a few Scots like this one, voicing their opposition to dhimmitude of the type that Osama and the rest propose.
You know -- just to remind them that Christians, not Muslims, control Christian institutions.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Wait a minute, I did http://jibtrim.blogspot.com/2006/01/islamic-group-wants-catholics-to-step.html
|| Posted by Jibtrim, January 15, 2006 11:43 PM ||If non-Muslims, not JUST Christians, but ALL non-Muslims, keep giving in to this evil *sect*, we're not going to have a place left to hang our hats...
It's time for the Islamics to learn, it's OK to be Islamic, for them, I won't deny ANYONE their right to THEIR religion, but if they try to force it on ME, I'm gonna give them the opportunity to find out if that *72 virgins* BS is true or not...
|| Posted by TexasFred, January 16, 2006 03:53 AM ||Thanks for post this fine example of what happens when state and religion intertwine. If you read carefully, you'll see that this is NOT a "Christian institution", it is a state institution. This is a good example of why I oppose school vouchers, too.
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 06:38 AM ||Where the heck do you get that, Dan -- the article says nothing of the kind. I realize that you are not one to let the facts get in the way of your ideology, but making up stuff like that is pretty outrageous. It is a Catholic institution, not a state one.
And by the way, vouchers would be exactly the solution to this problem -- the Muslim community could go set up the Osama bin Laden Improvised Explosives Academy and the parents could choose -- or not choose -- to use the voucher there, based upon their decision on the values they seek to pass on to their kids.
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, January 16, 2006 07:15 AM ||This is absolutely disgusting. We don't care if they're Muslims, but I wish to heavens they would stop asking us to change who we are to fit their needs!
This is typical liberal caca! "I have a need so YOU have to fill it!"
Idiocy!
BTW - Dan...why do you care if parents use a voucher to send their child to a school that espouses the beliefs of the parents and the child? Does it somehow mean that YOU are forced to go to the school? Does it somehow mean that YOUR CHILDREN are forced to go to the school?
Oh...no...it doesn't?
Then get out of my face.
-Bart
|| Posted by Bartleby, January 16, 2006 08:04 AM ||Dan: I read carefully. Where do you get that this is a state institution? Please show us.
|| Posted by Hube, January 16, 2006 08:32 AM ||There are two ways to take over a nation. It appears that Islam intends to populate and then take over many nations.
If the Christians and Catholics don't wake up it will be too late to stop them....
This passive turn the other cheek is not going to work.
|| Posted by Patty aka Redneck Granny, January 16, 2006 10:05 AM ||I attempted to trackback to you but it doesn't show up.
|| Posted by J Rob, January 16, 2006 11:24 AM ||What I said on my own blog is these Muslims talk about good faith and all they are doing is a good old-fashioned land grab with an eye toward desecration. they knew it was a Catholic school when they enrolled. If they don't like the religious training there, they are free to start their own school...period.
Here's an article that discusses the issue in the context of St. Albert's being a state-funded school: http://www.sovereignty./siteinfo/newsround/mozz.html
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 01:57 PM ||For some reason, the commenting will not allow me to post the link without deleting org dot uk which should follow the period after sovereignty.
Islamification, bit by bit. The infiltration is insidious. As the number of Muslim immigrants grows, we'll see more of this kind of objecting on the part of Muslims.
And once a school is Muslim, does it tolerate Christianity? Have a look at Saudi.
Thanks, Greg. I hat-tipped you and posted this information at Infidel Bloggers Alliance.
|| Posted by Always On Watch, January 16, 2006 03:26 PM ||In other words, it was not in the article I cited at all. You had to go out and find another article, ovr two years old, to cite. And that one doesn't even make the claim that you do -- rather it points out that religious schools can receive funding from the government.
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, January 16, 2006 05:42 PM ||RWR, don't go having a hissy fit. You didn't know that Scotland has publicly funded religious schools, but I did. That's okay - it doesn't mean I'm better than you or that I'm "cheating" by knowing more. But it's true.
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 07:23 PM ||Actually, i did know -- but it was not relevant to the issue at hand.
And as i point out, there is nothing in my article that says what you claim it does.
The Church controls the school, but the government subsidizes the education of all children, not just those who attend a state-run school. Sounds much more respectful of freedom to me.
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, January 16, 2006 09:21 PM ||You're forgiven for posting a misleading and incomplete article. This time. But don't let it happen again.
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 10:28 PM ||(Kidding, BTW. Of course.)
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 10:30 PM ||Glad you came back with that -- i had a rather sharp response in mind. :)
|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, January 16, 2006 10:46 PM ||It would have been richly deserved if I had meant it! If I get to the point where I think I can tell people what they can post on their blogs, feel free to track me down and swat me upside the head.
|| Posted by Dan, January 16, 2006 11:22 PM ||On the subject of incomplete information, Dan forgot to mention Scotland's church tax. There is a Church of Scotland, over here we know it as Presbyterian. Revenues from the church tax go to the Church of Scotland. Same is true with England and the Church of England. In all likelihood, the subsidies Dan referred to are part of a leveling out of the playing field.In other words, schools that religious receive the subsidies are no more "state run" than the mom-and-pop farm over here who receives a farm subsidy are state farms. No more than Notre Dame is a government school because it admits students receiving federal aid or on the GI Bill.
|| Posted by J Rob, January 17, 2006 06:00 AM ||I am sure the omission of that information was just an oversight.
J Rob -
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, as I understand it, "church schools" in Scotland are funded by the government, and under the control of the local authorities, though they are allowed to select teachers based on religion, and are allowed to have religious services and unpaid religious instructors. I'll admit it's been a couple years since I've looked at this in any detail, but it's not at all like a family farm or Notre Dame, unless both were under the control of the state.
|| Posted by Dan, January 17, 2006 06:37 AM ||That all depends. What you describe is government control, not "public funding". From what I have been able to find they provide funding but have limited control as Scotland has no national curriculum.
By the way, a number of MP's in the Labor Party have been calling for an end to that funding at least since 2004.
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=27859
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Industry_insights/Education/As_it_is/p!emklid
That said, I think my analogy is valid, or at least as valid as your claim that the Catholic schools are government controlled.
|| Posted by J Rob, January 17, 2006 10:03 PM ||Post a comment