We have an election coming up next week, related to ballot propositions on the state, county, and local levels.
Looking them over, I’d like to offer the following positions for your consideration.
STATE OF TEXAS
Amendment 1
Clarifies in law the legislature’s transfer of Angelo State University from Texas State University System to Texas Tech University System.
Yes – a technical correction
Amendment 2
Issues $500 million general obligation bonds for student loans
Yes – reluctantly. We need to restore tuition caps
Amendment 3
Limits the ad valorem tax on a homestead to the most recent market value or a 10 percent increase from the value of last year’s appraisal.
Yes – while it fails to go far enough in capping property taxes, that is no reason for not taking the incremental step.
Amendment 4
Authorizes up to $1 billion in bonds from the state general revenues for maintenance, repair and construction projects
Yes – too many projects have been delayed too long, and must be completed in the short term. The Battleship Texas project and the law enforcement provisions alone are reason enough to pass.
Amendment 5
Allows cities under 10,000 to vote to authorize the city to enter agreements encouraging revitalization programs by deferring ad valorem taxes
Yes
Amendment 6
Exempts ad valorem tax on one vehicle used for both professional and personal use
Yes
Amendment 7
Allows the government to sell property acquired through eminent domain back to the previous owner at the price paid by the government in acquiring the land
Yes – though it should be mandatory in those cases in which projects are cancelled.
Amendment 8
Clarifies and alters procedures related to making and using home equity loans
Yes – but this proves that there are things in the Texas Constitution that don’t need to be there
Amendment 9
Allows legislature to exempt totally disabled veteran’s homesteads from ad valorem taxes and changes the method for determining the amount of a disabled veteran’s exemption
Yes
Amendment 10
Eliminates the authority for the office of inspector of hides and animals
Yes – since the office is no longer in existence
Amendment 11
Requires a record vote on any final passage of a piece of legislation except local bills, and assures Internet access to those votes
Yes – a good government bill, though the local bills should not be exempt
Amendment 12
Authorizes Texas Transportation Commission to issue $5 billion in bonds for highway improvement projects
No – let’s rein-in the Trans Texas Corridor
Amendment 13
Authorizes the denial of bail to a person who violates certain court orders in misdemeanor family violence cases.
Yes
Amendment 14
Permits judges reaching mandatory retirement age to finish their terms
Yes – though we ought to be eliminating the retirement age completely
Amendment 15
Establishes the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas and authorizes state to issue up to $3 billion in bonds from the general revenue for research
No Recommendation – I’m still struggling with this one
Amendment 16
Allows Texas Water Development Board to issue up to $250 million in additional bonds for clean water in economically distressed areas
Yes
HARRIS COUNTY
Proposition 1
The issuance of $190,000,000 Harris County road bonds and the levying of the tax in payment thereof.
Yes
Proposition 2
The issuance of $95,000,000 Harris County park bonds and the levying of the tax in payment thereof.
No
Proposition 3
The issuance of $195,000,000 Harris County bonds for a central processing and adult detention center and the levying of the tax in payment thereof.
Yes
Proposition 4
The issuance of $80,000,000 harris county bonds for a medical examiner's forensic center and the levying of the tax in payment thereof
Yes
Proposition 5
The issuance of $70,000,000 Harris County bonds for a family law center and the levying of the tax in payment thereof.
Yes
PORT OF HOUSTON AUTHORITY
Proposition
The issuance of $250,000,000 Port of Houston Authority bonds for port improvements (including related transportation facilities, security facilities and environmental enhancements) to provide economic development and the levying of the tax in payment thereof.
In accordance with Texas law and Section 5.21 of the Charter of the City of Seabrook, Texas, shall the City Council of the City of Seabrook, Texas be authorized to issue bonds of the City in the amount of $2,500,000 maturing serially or otherwise at such times as may be fixed by the City Council not to exceed 40 years from their date or dates and bearing interest at any rate or rates, either fixed, variable or floating, according to any clearly stated formula, calculation or method not exceeding the maximum interest now or hereafter authorized by law as shall be determined within the discretion of the City Council at the time of issuance, and to levy a tax upon all taxable property in the City sufficient to pay the interest on the bonds, and to provide a sinking fund for the payment of the bonds as they mature, for the purpose of making permanent public park improvements as follows: the Pine Gully Enhancement Project located at 502 Pine Gully, Seabrook, Texas, including acquisition of approximately 8.433 acres of property immediately north of Pine Gully Park, construction and improvement of such property, all as more specifically described in Resolution 2007-14, and all matters necessary or incidental thereto.
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The straight-and-narrow proceedings of federal court took a striking political detour yesterday during a hearing in Camden for six men accused in a terror plot against Fort Dix.
The U.S. district judge presiding over a pretrial hearing for the group known as the "Fort Dix Six" threw sharp words from the bench when shown a campaign flyer being circulated by Republicans vying for state legislative seats in Burlington County.
The flyer, which was entered into evidence because of its potential impact on jurors, implies that Democratic Assembly hopeful Tracy Riley is a terrorist sympathizer.
The reason? Her husband, Michael Riley, is defending one of the men accused in the alleged plot to gun down soldiers at Fort Dix, the Army base in Burlington County. One of the men is expected to enter a guilty plea today.
Judge Robert B. Kugler, who examined the flyer for its impact on potential jurors, did little to conceal his shock.
"Wow," Kugler said, inspecting the mailer that Riley had handed him. "I had heard this was going on. . . . It's pretty despicable stuff, honestly."
When I was a seminarian, the brother of my moral theology professor was representing Jeff Dahmer, and Fr. Pat pointedly reminded us that ensuring that a client’s rights and interests are protected is appropriate to the degree that one neither lies to undercut justice nor acts to become enmeshed in the client’s crimes (like Lynn Stewart did). After all, no sane person would have argued that my professor’s brother was condoning or supporting murder or cannibalism by representing his client.
Now I’m not going to get into the propriety of the ad – after all, if we are going to continue to follow the misguided policy of treating terrorists as criminals rather than enemies of the state, we are going to have to afford them the right to an attorney. It is a part of our system, and an attorney for a terrorist is no more responsible for his client’s crimes than is the attorney for a murderer or a child molester. Based upon this belief, I know that as a candidate I would not have signed off on this campaign flyer for that very reason.
That said, I don’t believe that the issue of the flyer should have been dealt with in the manner it was, especially not in open court. The attorney in question, the husband of the candidate opposed in the flyer, expressed concern about contamination of the jury pool. It was his job to raise the issue. But for the judge to make the comments that he did from the bench – in particular, the attack from the bench on one of the candidates supported by this campaign literature – seems to me to have crossed a line into inappropriate political involvement by a judge. By making said criticism from the bench, he implicitly endorsed the defense attorney’s wife. Such criticism should not have been made at all. As such, Judge Kugler ought to be sanctioned for unethical conduct.
I’ve said it every time folks complain taxes are too low, or that they don’t deserve a newly implemented tax cut – they don’t need to keep that cash they feel isn’t rightfully theirs. And so I offer this suggestion to the latest “I’m not taxed enough” whiner – Warren Buffett.
The United States' second-richest man has delivered a blunt message to the Bush administration: he wants to pay more tax.
Warren Buffett, the famous investor known as the "Sage of Omaha", has complained that he pays a lower rate of tax than any of his staff - including his receptionist. Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52bn (£25bn), said: "The taxation system has tilted towards the rich and away from the middle class in the last 10 years. It's dramatic; I don't think it's appreciated and I think it should be addressed."
An analysis of his arguments shows that he wants to treat capital gains like income and wants social security contributions to be unlimited. That this would grind the economy to a screeching halt is overlooked by Buffett, but that is neither here nor there to the billionaire.
The thing is, though, that Buffett can already overcome the horrors of being undertaxed. As columnist and blogger Don Surber points out, he can diverst himself of his excess wealth quite easily. All he has to do is cut a check and mail it in.
Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 6D17
Hyattsville, MD 20782
Put your money where your mouth is, Warren – determine what you should pay and then actually pay it. Otherwise you lack any and all moral authority to call for higher taxes for other Americans.
If this keeps up, there won’t be enough dead soldiers for the eventual Democrat nominee to stand on when declaring defeat in Iraq.
The number of U.S. combat deaths in Iraq is headed for the lowest level in more than a year and a half and the fifth consecutive monthly decline.
Twenty-seven Americans have been killed in action in October, with one day left in the month, Pentagon records show. That would be the lowest monthly level since March 2006, when 27 servicemembers died in hostile action, according to a USA TODAY analysis of Pentagon reports.
The total number of U.S. deaths, including accidents, in October so far is 35, records show.
A new strategy, backed up by 30,000 more U.S. servicemembers, has led to a decline in violence and weakened al-Qaeda, commanders say. The U.S. military started building combat outposts and moving troops outside major bases earlier this year in an attempt to provide more security.
That strategy led to higher U.S. casualties in the spring, as the new troops moved into areas that had been insurgent sanctuaries. Combat deaths in April and May were the highest for a two-month period since the war started in March 2003, records show.
More recently, casualties have declined as security has been established. "I think we've turned the corner," Brig. Gen. John Campbell, an assistant commander for the U.S. division in Baghdad, said Tuesday in an interview from Iraq.
The Surge is working. Victory will happen, if we stick with the strategy and support the Iraqis. That means, though, that we can’t elect a candidate who is counting on American defeat as a path to electoral success.
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Dems Demand Mukasey Do What They Won’t -- UPDATED AND BUMPED
It really is the height of hypocrisy for certain Democrats to demand that a nominee for a Cabinet slot declare before confirmation something that Congress lacks the courage to legislate itself.
Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware said late Monday that unless Michael Mukasey defines waterboarding as torture, he won't vote to confirm the attorney general nominee.
Biden said he is waiting on a response from Mukasey to a letter he and all the Democratic Senate Judiciary Committee members sent last week asking the nominee to clarify answers he gave about waterboading during his confirmation hearing earlier this month. The presidential candidate indicated that he considers Mukasey's responses to lawmakers' questions at the hearing evasive at best.
"I think Judge Mukasey's comments on waterboarding were outrageous, especially given that he's seeking the job of attorney general," Biden told FOX News. "Anyone who thinks that waterboarding is not torture, is not fit — and will not have my support — to be attorney general."
Well, Senator, I personally think that any member of the Senate who insists that waterboarding is torture but has not introduced legislation to make it unambiguously illegal under American law is not fit to be a member of the Senate – and certainly not to be President. After all, it is the province of the legislative branch to make the practice illegal under American law. Why not be man enough to take the lead, sir, so that the question is settled?
UPDATE: Again yesterday, there wasmore piling on from Democrats, who won't act to put their view unambiguously into law. Is it political grandstanding on their part, or simply their own moral cowardice?
Attorney general nominee Michael B. Mukasey told Senate Democrats yesterday that a kind of simulated drowning known as waterboarding is "repugnant to me," but he said he does not know whether the interrogation tactic violates U.S. laws against torture.
Mukasey's uncertainty about the method's legality has raised new questions about the success of his nomination. It seemed a sure thing just two weeks ago, as Democrats joined Republicans in predicting his easy confirmation to succeed the embattled Alberto R. Gonzales.
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Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), the Judiciary panel's chairman, reacted with blunt dissatisfaction, saying in a statement yesterday that he will continue to delay any vote on Mukasey until the nominee answers more questions from lawmakers. "I remain very concerned that Judge Mukasey finds himself unable to state unequivocally that waterboarding is illegal and below the standards and values of the United States," he said.
But Leahy, who said last week that "my vote would depend on him answering that question," stopped short of declaring he will oppose the nomination. Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), also issued a statement criticizing Mukasey but did not say whether he would vote no.
"We asked Judge Mukasey a simple and straightforward question: Is waterboarding illegal?" Durbin said. "While this question has been answered clearly by many others . . . Judge Mukasey spent four pages responding and still didn't provide an answer."
Senator Durbin, why don't you introduce legislation to make it clear that waterboarding is illegal? Could it be that you know it is an effective tactic, one that has produced hard intelligence in the past and will in the future, intelligence that has safeguarded the American people? Could it be that you don't want your name attached to any measure that takes this effective technique off the table when American lives are at stake? What about you, Senator Leahy -- same questions.
Either act legislatively on waterboarding, Senators, or shut up about it and let the confirmation vote proceed.
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I agree with the New York Times here -- Congress needs to act to make it easier for those who have helped the US in Afghanistan and Iraq enter the US legally.
Congress has finally pried open America’s door to Iraqis and Afghans who have served this country at great risk. Congress needs to go a lot further, adding more visa slots and approving resettlement benefits that would allow these people to grab the lifeline the United States has been far too slow to offer.
Translators, interpreters and thousands of others have aided American troops and diplomats — and have become targets for militants. Under current American law, 500 Iraqis and Afghans per year who have worked for the United States armed forces for a year, may obtain special immigrant visas.
I remember 1975 very well, when I was a kid on Guam. I watched refugees stream into the temporary camps around the island as Saigon fell to the Communists, with planes landing on the runway only a mile from my house at NAS Agana. Many of these were Embassy employees and their families, or others who would be seen as collaborators by the Communists -- and countless others were left behind. We must not allow such a situation to happen ever again, where those who help us are abandoned.
There is legislation for a 10-fold increase in the number of people admitted from these countries. Congress should support it -- especially if Democrats are preparing to abandon Iraq as part of their policy of surrender and defeat in the face of victory.
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As Mitt Romney scours the South for endorsements from evangelical leaders, he is getting some unusual advice on how to explain his Mormon faith: Don't try to be one of us.
``I told him, you cannot equate Mormonism with Christianity; you cannot say, `I am a Christian just like you,''' said Representative Bob Inglis of South Carolina, which is scheduled to hold the first primary among the Southern states. ``If he does that, every Baptist preacher in the South is going to have to go to the pulpit on Sunday and explain the differences.''
This advice, which reflects the views of many Southern Baptists and other evangelicals, makes Romney's co-religionists bristle. ``The fact that we are Christians is non-negotiable,'' said Kim Farah, a spokeswoman for the Salt Lake City-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
What you have here is a twofold problem. On one level, you have the theological issue of how to classify Mormonism. Most Christians, and certainly most evangelicals, would struggle with classifying the LDS Church as within the pale of orthodoxy due to its distinctive theology and additional scriptural claims. There is serious room for theological discussion, but not in the context of a presidential campaign. Romney needs to dismiss the issue, regardless of the adamant claims of LDS authorities that Mormons are Christians. It just isn't relevant to Romney's needs as a candidate.
Besides, that issue isn't relevant to the presidential campaign. What Romney needs to do is focus on the shared values and policies, as well as his independence from official church control. That should be easy to do, given both the social conservative stance taken by the LDS Church and its long-standing history of recognizing the political independence of the Mormon faithful, including officeholders. But Romney needs to act soon on this issue, lest it continue to be a distraction.
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I don't think Romney would dismiss his Christian faith anymore than you would yours - And for a Christian to expect a person to deny their belief in Christ is something I find repulsive
|| Posted by Jennifer, October 31, 2007 04:28 AM ||
And I'm certainly not suggesting that he deny his faith. What I am suggesting -- along with many others -- is that he needs to emphasize the shared values rather than the disparate theology.
In 1960, JFK dealt a death-blow to the religion issue not by convincing people that Catholicism was right or that it was Christian (a serious question among the evangelicals of that day), but by dealing instead with the issues of the policies he would support and his independence from church control. Romney needs to do something similar, because otherwise the theological issues will overshadow the political ones.
It isn't an expectation that anyone deny their faith -- it is instead a need to emphasize what is important in a political campaign.
Those who disagree with him are not merely wrong, they are mentally ill!
Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich questioned President Bush's mental health in light of comments he made about a nuclear Iran precipitating World War III.
"I seriously believe we have to start asking questions about his mental health," Kucinich, an Ohio congressman, said in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer's editorial board on Tuesday. "There's something wrong. He does not seem to understand his words have real impact."
Kucinich, known for his liberal views, trails far behind the leading candidates in most Democratic polls. He was in Philadelphia for a debate at Drexel University.
So I guess the next step is for Kucinich to insist that the President of the United States be subject to forced mental health treatment until he adopts policies more to the Ohio congressman's liking. I believe that was the tactic favored in the Soviet Union for many years -- but Kucinich is so far left that he probably finds nothing wrong with that.
Of course, there are those who think that Kucinich is as lacking in intellectual and political stature as he is in physical stature -- and one look at his website makes it clear that he might well have personal expertise in mental illness. After all, he thinks he is a serious presidential candidate, which is among the most delusional beliefs I've ever heard of.
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Is it just me, or does this sound like an attempt by Barney Frank to impose an ex post facto liability burden on companies involved in subprime mortgages?
But the losses at Merrill and Countrywide show that the market economy is working as it's supposed to. Companies that made overly risky decisions are having to pay for them, and to adjust their business models accordingly. Over the long run, everyone should be better off as firms learn from the subprime mistake.
The question is whether market discipline is enough, or whether government needs to reinforce it. House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) is working on a comprehensive bill that would impose legal liability on the "securitizers" of mortgage debt. Mr. Frank's proposal would let borrowers sue issuers of bonds that are backed by "no doc" mortgages or other products that do not meet "minimum standards for reasonable ability to pay." To those who suggest that this would chill the mortgage-backed securities market, Mr. Frank notes that the proposed penalties are not unduly onerous. The most a borrower could sue for would be cancellation of a loan and court costs; there are "safe harbor" provisions for securitizers who generally follow sound practices or offer to settle with a borrower out of court. And Mr. Frank candidly replies that, given the recent excesses, the market could use a little chilling.
Now let's consider this. The legislation would make actions that were legal and proper at the time the occurred a form of fraud today -- and allow those who knowingly and willingly entered into contracts sue to cancel their debts. I recognize that these are civil, not criminal penalties, but doesn't this seem to be at odds with our constitutional heritage -- imposing liability where none existed before? I hold no brief for the mortgage industry, but do shudder to think of the implications of this legislation.
Frankly, Hillary Clinton lacks the basic qualifications to be President. She has never led anything of any significance, and her best known “accomplishments” were her failed health care plan, her questionable trading in cattle futures, and her smearing of those who correctly pointed to her husbands misdeeds as being part of a “vast right wing conspiracy”.
But now she and her campaign are upset over a single word.
Former Gov. Mitt Romney said last night that electing Hillary Clinton is akin to putting an “intern” in the job - a potentially loaded statement where a Clinton presidency is concerned.
In remarks that drew immediate fire from the Clinton camp, Romney said on Fox’s “Hannity and Colmes” last night, “She’s never had the occasion of being in the private sector, running a business, or, for that matter, running a state or a city. She hasn’t run anything, and the government of the United States is not a place for a president to be an intern.”
Frankly, Clinton may be a decent lawyer, but she has no management experience of the sort that would qualify her for the leadership of America’s executive branch. That’s not to say that a single term legislator is unqualified for the office, but the junior Senator from New York’s record is pretty sparse, and indicates no aptitude for the presidency.
Besides – if Hillary had been competent enough to do the jobk of an intern, the nation might have been spared the indignity of her husband’s impeachment.
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Inexperience? Pot. Kettle
|| Posted by Don Surber, October 30, 2007 08:27 PM ||
Don -- remember, Romney has experience as a governor, as well as executive experience running his own company.
Unprecedented copper thefts have spurred a crackdown to stop the damage, as at least 16 states have passed or proposed new laws, and businesses have boosted security and offered bounties for information on the thieves.
The crackdown comes as losses to businesses hover around $1 billion, the U.S. Department of Energy reports, and as escalating thefts have disrupted the flow of electricity, slowed construction projects and knocked out irrigation networks crucial to commercial farms.
Seizing on rising worldwide demand and surging value for the popular metal — up from 80 cents per pound in 2003 to about $3.50 this year — thieves sell stolen copper for millions of dollars in cash, state and federal authorities say.
"We're trying to do everything possible to fight this epidemic," says Adam Grant, spokesman at Nevada Power, where copper thefts have more than doubled since last year. "It's crazy."
My favorite law? One in Washington State that immunizes those from whom copper is being stolen from liability for injuries to the thieves. This puts me in mind of something that happened about 20 years ago. I recall there being a big market in vintage bricks, often taken from old, abandoned buildings. One guy in St. Louis was killed when a building collapsed while he was removing bricks from a wall. Seems he decided to start on the first floor and work his way up…
In the last 50 years, every federal tax cut has produced increased revenue for the federal government. Repeated observation has shown that the connection exists, as surely as the connection between cigarettes and lung cancer, or consumption of alcohol and intoxication. That’s why it is almost inexplicable that certain liberal writers have been out to debunk the connection between tax cuts and increased revenue.
As the Democrats prepare to attempt one of the largest tax increases in American history, their allies in the press corps are softening the ground with a campaign against the ideological underpinnings of the Bush tax cuts. People can debate any particular tax increase or tax cut. But the left-wing side of this debate is rolling out a new argument. In publicity material for a new book, "The Big Con: The True Story of How Washington Got Hoodwinked and Hijacked By Crackpot Economics," the author, Jonathan Chait, puts it this way: "The notion that tax cuts can cause revenue to rise, though now embraced by every leading Republican politician, is rejected by even the most conservative economists."
On the Web site of the New Yorker, the magazine's financial page columnist, James Surowiecki, writes, "The supply-side argument that, in the United States, tax-rate cuts pay for themselves — that, after cutting taxes, the government actually ends up with more revenue — has little or no support within the mainstream economic profession, and no hard empirical data to back it up." He likens it to "saying that the best way to treat sick people is to bleed them to let out the evil spirits."
Messrs. Chait and Surowiecki are playing fast and loose with the facts. The first few pages of Mr. Chait's book are packed with the names of economists who back supply side ideas — Arthur Laffer of the Laffer Curve, who has been on the faculties of Pepperdine, the Southern California, and Chicago; Robert Mundell, the 1999 Nobel Laureate who is a professor of economics at Columbia; Martin Feldstein of Harvard; Lawrence Lindsey, who was an associate professor at Harvard from 1984 to 1989; and Glenn Hubbard of Columbia.
Now the two authors are correct in their statement that not every tax cut will increase revenue. There is a point, which I do not see us as having reached yet, at which revenue will decline – otherwise a tax rate of 0% would produce infinite revenue. But to dismiss the idea that tax cuts produce more revenue as flawed is fundamentally wrong. But much like Al Gore does on the global warming issue, the two writers seek to define anyone who disagrees with them as being “outside the mainstream”, despite the fact that it is demonstrably untrue and also irrelevant. After all, truth is rarely determined by a majority vote.
The Sun then goes on to point out that the various GOP tax cuts have invariably been accompanied by increased revenues. That is empirical data, which the pro-tax Left attempts to explain away as the vagaries of the business cycle. Interestingly enough, though, the two phenomena seem to correlate so strongly that it is impossible to ignore the connection and dismiss it as mere coincidence.
But it is the conclusion that interests me the most.
Even framing the issue as primarily about government revenue, however, concedes the terms of the debate to the left-wingers — as The Great Bartley comprehended. No doubt crucial government activities need to be funded. But as the political season wears on, the candidates — and the journalists who follow them — will come into contact with more and more voters who when they think of "revenue" don't first think of the government's bottom line, but of their own household's. You don't need a Ph.D. or a seat on the faculty of an Ivy League university to know that tax cuts let individuals keep more of the money they have earned, allowing them to spend it as they see fit, rather than as some bureaucrat or lobbyist-influenced politician wants to spend it.
The right way for politicians to approach these issues is by putting the individual's wallet ahead of Washington's, an approach that puts property rights and incentives for hard work and growth ahead of government revenues. Understanding incentives has always been a key to the supply-side argument. It's good politics and good economics. While the Party's deep thinkers of today may dismiss it as hoodwinking, hijacking, crackpottery, or evil spirits, there was a time the Democrats were on the right side of the issue. Ask JFK. Our own prediction is that to the extent the tax issue drives the debate in 2008 — and we think it will be a big factor, though not the only one — the key point won't be which candidate wins the votes of the economics faculties, but which one can show voters he or she understands it's their money, and Washington should take as little as it possibly can.
Indeed, the assumption of Chait, Surowiecki and their ilk is that they begin with the assumption that your income is a government resource, and that the government should get first dibs on it. The reality, however, is different – we have a moral right to every penny of our income, though we relinquish a portion of it for NECESSARY government programs. That does not mean every idea proposed by the latest pandering politician seeking votes.
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Now I've indicated multiple times in the past that I am a Romney supporter. I've also indicated that I find his religion to be irrelevant to the issue of his fitness for office. So I agree, at least in part, with this column written by Martin Frost for FoxNews.
Sometimes things happen in American politics that make no sense at all. We are experiencing just one of those moments in the 2008 presidential campaign.
I thought that the concept of a religious test for public office in our country was put to bed once and for all when John Kennedy, a Catholic, was elected president in 1960 and Joe Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, was nominated for vice president in 2000.
Now we have a candidate with a record of accomplishment, Mitt Romney, who is consistently lagging in the polls with the most credible reason being that significant numbers of Republican primary voters will not support him because of his Mormon religion.
When voters, particularly in the South, are asked to identify candidates that they would not support for president under any circumstances, Romney leads the list. Romney is rejected as a potential presidential candidate in this type polling more often than other polarizing figures such as Rudy Giuliani. It has become increasingly clear that many conservative voters will not support an otherwise qualified candidate who happens to be a Mormon.
As a Democrat, I wouldn’t vote for Romney in the general election if he is nominated by the Republican Party. But I’ll be damned if I can understand why he should be disqualified from seeking his party’s nomination because of his religion. This makes no logical sense in the world’s greatest democracy in the 21st century.
The question is, how many of those opposed to Mitt Romney are really opposed to him based upon his religion. In my experience, that number seems smaller thatn some in the media might like to make it. Pressed a little harder, most individuals who raise the Mormon issue will come back to questions about Romney's past positions on important issues, and wonder if he is really conservative enough. The religious issue simply becomes the tipping point for them, the one on which the question of shared values becomes decisive.
Now I think that such individuals are wrong -- but I don't think religious issues are necessarily irrelevant in making political choices. While I'll gladly vote for any Christian or Jew who supports my views on major issues, even I have a tipping point -- I don't know that I could bring myself to vote for an individual, for example, who was a Satanist, because our value systems would be too greatly at odds. Is that a wholly rational position, one consistent with my stated beliefs on religion and elections? Maybe not, but then I've never met anyone who was wholly consistent on the values they espouse.
There are those who will argue that the Constitution forbids religious tests for office. They are right, but they ignore what that restriction really means. That provision restricts government itself from requiring or forbidding certain beliefs or practices, but does not extend to the sanctity of the voting booth and the individual's weighing of a candidate's relative merits for office.
Now for all I find myself unable to accept Mormon religious doctrines (and I have studied them, having once been painfully smitten with a Mormon girl who would allow our relationship to progress no further unless I converted) and the historical roots of that faith, I have rarely met a Mormon whose fundamental decency I have doubted. That gives me a certain confidence that Romney's values and mine are congruent, even if not identical. It is why I can support his candidacy for president with a clear conscience, and why I can urge my fellow Americans (of whom my fellow Republicans are but one subset) to support him for the presidency in 2008.
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Gregg,
You are correct on both points; those seeking elected office have core values that we recognize, values which are a direct result of that persons religion or lack of a religion. While working as a police officer I had to ride partners with one fellow who was an atheist and very vocal about it. I asked my supervisor to limit the times we had to work as partners because, as I explained, I could not depend on the actions of the fellow based on our core values which were miles apart. We never had to ride as partners after that request. I’d ridden with officers who were Baptist, Methodist, and just about any other Christian denomination and we had many shared core values in spite of doctrinal issues which made for interesting conversation during a shift; but I didn’t have to concern myself with how they felt regarding the sacred gift of life. I think that may have been the key issue, the atheist had no regard for the sanctity of life, “you live, you die, no big deal”.
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The GOP's most electable candidate gets a free pass in 08 because they have no one to challenge. It is so fun to watch Republicans validate a candidate that believes Jesus will return to Missouri and Jerusalem to reign when they won the election in 04 on a religious foundation. 04 was not about terror, security.
Now Romney comes along and most republicans are ok with his complete opposite view of most Christians i n the country because he has the bankroll and the good looks to challenge someone. Better look to 2012.
Good grief -- have we so few issues of importance in the field of civil rights ad race relations that so-called "civil rights leaders" (all-to-often merely racial grievance mongers) are reduced to protesting something as absurd as this.
Nobody got shot, but Vice President Cheney still fired up controversy Monday when he went hunting at a private club that hangs the Confederate flag.
A Daily News photographer captured the 3-by-5 foot Dixie flag affixed to a door in the garage of the Clove Valley Gun and Rod Club in upstate Union Vale, N.Y.
"It's appalling for the VP to be at a private club displaying the flag of lynching, hate and murder," said the Rev. Al Sharpton. "It's the epitome of an insult."
Sharpton demanded Cheney distance himself from the exclusive club where the Stars and Bars was flown, and said he might hold a prayer vigil there.
I'm curious -- how many folks, including club members, even knew that the thing was there before the picture was taken? Probably not many. If AlSharpton is going to try to make a cause celebre out of this, it proves that the racial climate in this country even better than I had believed.
Indeed, if a flag in a garage and the six felonious thugs from Jena are the worst offenses the racial grievance mongers can muster, then I'd argue it is time to zero-out the civil rights division of the Department of Justice -- its work is done.
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This Would Be Awesome: Ted Olson for Virginia Senate Seat?
I’m hearing rumblings that high-ranking Republicans want to coax former Solicitor General Ted Olson to run against Mark Warner in next year’s Virginia Senate race…
And it might still leave him in contention for a future Supreme Court seat – one which is richly deserved.
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Pro-Border-Jumper Groups Seek To Stop Law Against Illegals
Because after all, we wouldn’t want to make those breaking the law feel uncomfortable, stigmatized or unwelcome.
One of the toughest state laws targeting illegal immigrants takes effect Thursday in Oklahoma, prompting efforts by immigrants trying to block it and work by state agencies to comply.
The law makes it a felony to transport or shelter illegal immigrants. Businesses, which are barred by federal law from hiring illegal immigrants, can be sued by a legal worker who is displaced by an illegal one.
The measure denies illegal immigrants certain public benefits such as rental assistance and fuel subsidies.
"It's clearly one of the most restrictive policies" in the country, says Cecilia Muñoz of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic civil rights organization.
Muñoz says she's particularly concerned about a provision that gives local police the authority to check immigration status. Such policies create fear among all Hispanics, including those in the country legally, and may contribute to discrimination, she says.
On Thursday, the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders filed its second lawsuit against the measure. The group says it is unconstitutional because immigration is a federal, not state, responsibility.
I’m particularly troubled by their attempt to block the provision allowing legal workers to sue employers of illegal immigrants. After all, according to the advocates for the border jumpers, those folks are only doing the jobs Americans won’t do. Could it be that they are afraid of being proved wrong when there is a flood of lawsuits from American citizens who want jobs but are being undercut by those with no legal right to be in (much less work in) the United States?
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They are only illegal because prior immigrants made laws
Heck, the real news would be if she wasn’t voting Republican.
Sorry, sister: Laura Bush says experience as First Lady may count, but she won't vote for Hillary Clinton just to see the first female President.
Putting party over gender pride yesterday, Bush said she wasn't at all conflicted over opposing the first woman with a real chance to break the marble ceiling.
"It doesn't matter to me - I hope it doesn't matter to other people," the First Lady said. "I hope that people will choose the candidate that they think really has the views that they want.
"I'll be supporting the Republican," Bush added on "Fox News Sunday."
Now let’s see.
Republican wife of a sitting Republican president gets asked of she is going to vote for a Democrat in the upcoming election. What do you think she would say? The question itself is asinine.
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"If 9/11 was really an inside job, you wouldn't be driving around with a bumper sticker bragging that you were on to it. Fantasy is a by-product of security: it's the difference between hanging upside down in your dominatrix's bondage parlor after work on Friday and enduring the real thing for years on end in Saddam's prisons."
Exactly.
And similarly, if the Bush Administration were truly the fascist regime the anti-war crowd keeps claiming it is, those making the claim would have long since been imprisoned or executed for the audacity of their claims.
BRITAIN'S first Muslim minister said he was "deeply disappointed" yesterday after being detained at a US airport where his hand luggage was tested for traces of explosive materials.
Shahid Malik, the MP for Dewsbury and an international development minister, was returning to Heathrow after meetings and talks on tackling terrorism, when he was stopped at Dulles Airport near Washington yesterday morning.
He was searched and detained by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) - the department whose representatives he had been meeting on his visit.
You, sir, at least fit the profile of a terrorist. We regularly see nuns and Medal of Honor winners searched at random as a condition of air travel. Why should you be treated any different? And if, as you claim, all of those getting the special search that day were Muslims, it appears that someone may have been awake to the fact that Muslims are the folks who have been committing the bulk of terrorist activity over the last 20 years or so.
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The great Buddhas of Bamiyan were destroyed by the Taliban in 201. It was a great loss for the cultural heritage of all humanity. Roger Cohen reflects on that loss today, following a recent visit to the site.
People still speak of the Buddhas as if they were there. The Buddhas are visited and debated. A “Buddha road” just opened. It boasts the first paved surface in Afghanistan’s majestic central highlands and stretches all of a half-mile.
But the 1,500-year-old Buddhas of Bamiyan are gone, of course, replaced by two gashes in the reddish-brown cliff. They were destroyed in March 2001 by the Taliban in their quest to rid the country of the “gods of the infidels.” The fanatical soldiers of Islam blasted the ancient treasures to fragments.
“It is easier to destroy than to build,” Mawlawi Qudratullah Jamal, then the Taliban information minister, noted on March 3, 2001. True enough, but few in New York or elsewhere listened.
Memory, however, is another matter. It is stubborn and volatile and hard to eradicate. The keyhole-like niches in the rock face are charged. Absence is presence. The visitor is drawn into the void as if summoned, not by vacancy, but by the towering Buddhas themselves.
Cohen clearly intends this to be a call for peace, but I think that the quote from Mawlawi Qudratullah shows the problem we face in the current conflict. Our enemy thinks nothing of destruction for destruction's sake, to the point that bombarding Buddhas or flying planes into buildings, not to mention engaging in terrorists bombings and beheadings, are not only not unthinkable but are instead second nature to them. We are faced, then, with new barbarians whose goal is nothing less than the destruction of our society, and we must continue to stand against them or allow them to succeed due to a pacifism born of laziness. Our society has been one of of great building in every field of endeavor. What lasting contribution to the world has our enemy built in the last six centuries?
Cohen ends by noting that fear is not the answer. He is right -- but neither is surrender to the forces of evil that would engulf us in a tidal wave of destruction.
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Killer Claims Lost Items "Confiscated" -- AP Plays Along
Never mind that it could play into the same sort of frenzy set off by false reports of flushed Qurans.
A Muslim inmate says prisoners around the country are regularly mistreated by their jailers because of religious faith. The Supreme Court is considering his case Monday.
The issue in the inmate's lawsuit is whether he can sue prison officials for allegedly confiscating two copies of his Quran and his prayer rug.
Abdus-Shahid M.S. Ali, a convicted murderer, says the books and rug are among the personal items that have been missing since 2003, when he was moved from a federal penitentiary in Atlanta to a facility at Inez, Ky.
Muslim inmates have been subjected to "very hard times and bad treatment" at the hands of federal, state and local prison employees because of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Ali says in court papers.
Ali is serving a sentence of 20 years to life in prison for committing first-degree murder in the District of Columbia.
So we know the true nature of the guy making the complaint -- he is a cold-blooded killer. I guess that doesn't stand in the way of his being a good Muslim, does it? Religion of Peace and all that.
Ali says the items he turned over to prison officers in Atlanta for shipment never arrived at Inez.
In the Supreme Court, the question is whether federal prison officials qualify as law enforcement officers and are therefore exempt from suit under the Federal Tort Claims Act of 1946. The statute bars liability claims against law enforcement officers involved in detaining property. Two lower federal courts ruled against Ali.
Besides the two copies of the Quran and the prayer rug, Ali is missing stamps and other personal items worth $177 that he says weren't sent along to Big Sandy penitentiary in Kentucky.
Gee, growing up my family moved at six times -- and every time, something got lost in transit. My complete medical records for the first six years of my life were lost by the Department of Defense when they were shipped from Naval Hospital Balboa to Naval Hospital Bethesda, though the rest of the family records arrived just fine. Sounds like the same thing here. But I guess you can get more press claiming confiscation than simple loss.
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A new site dealing with the threat of Islamic terrorism has opened -- Kafir Canada.
If the first major post (second overall) is any indication, the site will become an important one in the fight against those who would do violence against us in the name of the Muslim faith, as well as those who object to efforts to combat Islamic terrorism. Provided, of course, the Canadian government doesn't try to shut it down for speaking the truth.
Unite (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees) has been trying to wedge a foot in the door at Cintas since 2003. Unable to get enough worker support to force an election, Unite wants to skip the customary secret-ballot and force 17,000 Cintas workers to join the union and pay dues. But Cintas and its workers have said no thanks.
"What they're asking for is they want me to agree to put all of our people in a union without giving them a chance to vote for themselves," said CEO Scott Farmer, after the shareholders meeting on Tuesday. "Our position is that our employees have a right to say yes - but they also have a right to say no."
So Unite has resorted to desperate attacks on the Cincinnati-based uniform company.
Unite copied license numbers from Cintas workers in Pennsylvania, to snoop in personal information and harass them at home. The union has been ordered to pay the workers $2,500 each. Unite also published a false press release that caused Cintas stock to drop $300 million, according to a defamation suit by Cintas that is going to trial in Warren County court.
"For four-and-a-half years now our people have heard it all," Farmer said. "The union is not going anywhere, but I consider it a failed campaign."
For every "sweatshop" accusation from Unite, there are dozens of Cintas workers who like their jobs and want no part of a union. Many have signed petitions asking Unite to stop harassing them.
If a business engaged in such tactics to stop their workers from unionizing, they would be subject to criminal and civil penalties. If that business engaged in such tactics to break an existing union, they would be subject to criminal and civil penalties. When will unions be subject to the same sort of penalties -- and when will our government quit coddling the union thugs and seeking legislation to force workers into unions they don't want?
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The Three Fallacies Of Single Payer Health "Insurance"
I think this really sums the matter up quite nicely, since the Democrats seem to believe that we have enough extra cash around to "insure" the health of every single American and any illegal alien able to sneak across the border.
The first fallacy should be obvious to anyone. The government does not have any extra money! In fact, our government owes $9 trillion, give or take a few billion. That is what we call the national debt, but really, it is not owed by the government; it is owed by you and me. Every time some politician gets another bright idea to give away a million dollars here or $250,000 there, it comes out of your pocket. Don’t just believe me; ask your pocket.
The second fallacy may be more subtle. What is being called “health insurance” by the politicians is nothing of the sort. As we have already established, insurance is a financial gamble where you put money at risk on the chance that you will reap a reward later. Notice the word “risk.” But the only one assuming any risk in the “feel-good” version of insurance being proposed by Clinton, Obama, Edwards and the gang is the American taxpayer. What they are talking about is “free health care,” not insurance. But it is only free for the sick person; instead of them paying for their own care, you and I pay for it.
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Which brings us to the unstated third fallacy of the health-care debate, the one which is pivotal and sadly which is accepted as truth by the vast majority of people. It is this: If there is something that is good for me, I am entitled to it, whether I can afford it or not.
Put more simply:
1) We can't afford it.
2) It is socialism, not insurance.
3) It isn't a right.
Interestingly enough, medical care used to be affordable for the overwhelming majority of Americans. Then the government got involved in paying for it for those who couldn't? The result? Prices went up to the level that health insurance became a necessity for everyone else -- which drove costs still higher. After all, when you have to document every aspirin in triplicate and submit the paperwork to get reimbursed, that pill that costs a penny to buy does start to cost $4 to administer..
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Would it be more expensive than what I am paying for health insurance plus taxes? Because that would be an apples to apples version.
We could afford it easier one would say if we weren't flushing money away everyday in Iraq. Health insurance groups have been on the same gravy train all big business has been on for the past 30 years - Democrat or Republican. Romney, Rudy, Hillary, they are all already bought and paid for. We have such a joke of a system.....
I hold a certain ambivalence towards the death penalty. On the one hand, I have deep concern over its use upon the innocent. At the same time, I recognize that some crimes are, by their very nature, so heinous that no other penalty is adequate to express society's outrage. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that some offenders -- and not just murderers -- clearly forfeit the presumption of a right to life by the very nature of their crimes.
The United Methodist Church here is the kind of politically active place where parishioners take to the pulpit to discuss poverty in El Salvador and refugees living in Meriden. But few issues engage its passions as much as the death penalty.
The last three pastors were opponents of capital punishment. Church-sponsored adult education classes promote the idea of “restorative justice,” advocating rehabilitation over punishment. Two years ago, congregants attended midnight vigils outside the prison where Connecticut executed a prisoner for the first time in 45 years.
The problem, of course, with the whole "restorative justice" concept is that there is no real way of making whole the victims and the community in certain cases. And that is precisely the problem in the case at hand.
So it might have been expected that United Methodist congregants would speak out forcefully when a brutal triple murder here in July led to tough new policies against violent criminals across the state and a pledge from prosecutors to seek capital punishment against the defendants.
But the congregation has been largely quiet, not out of indifference, but anguish: the victims were popular and active members of the church — Jennifer Hawke-Petit, 48, and her two daughters, Hayley, 17, and Michaela, 11. On July 23, two men broke into the family’s home. Mrs. Hawke-Petit was strangled and her daughters died in a fire that the police say was set by the intruders.
The killings have not just stunned the congregation, they have spurred quiet debate about how it should respond to the crime and whether it should publicly oppose the punishment that may follow. It has also caused a few to reassess how they feel about the punishment.
Yeah -- the liberal "principle" at work here gets really hard to stand by when it hits too close to home. All of a sudden one is forced to reexamine what one believes when the hard, cold reality and unspeakable evil intrudes. Sure, ideas like "restorative justice" sound great in theory -- especially when one talks about property crime -- but it doesn't work when you have three dead loved ones to deal with. They are not going to be restored.
At the heart of the debate are questions about how Mrs. Hawke-Petit’s husband, William, who survived the attack, feels about the death penalty. The indications are conflicting. Sensitive to his grief, many of the church’s most ardent capital punishment opponents have been hesitant to speak against the capital charges brought against two parolees charged with the killings, Joshua Komisarjevsky and Steven Hayes.
“I’m treading lightly out of respect for the Petit family,” said the church’s pastor, the Rev. Stephen E. Volpe, a death penalty opponent. “I do not feel we, in this church, ought to make this tragedy the rallying cry for anything at this point.”
Yeah -- but if this was some other family from some other church, would you be more than willing to do so? If so, then that is either a sign that you are unwilling to stand by your principles when they are inconvenient, or that you know that they are wrong but unwilling to own up to that reality. After all, if you really believe that your position is coming out of the Gospel, then you need to proclaim it when it is hard, not just when it is easy -- unless it is less about the Gospel and more about a political agenda sugar-coated with a veneer of religion.
At the same time, there is a widespread belief that Mrs. Hawke-Petit was opposed to capital punishment. Having her killers put to death would be the last thing she would want, many say.
“It’d be so dishonoring to her life to do anything violent in her name,” said Carolyn Hardin Engelhardt, a church member who is the director of the ministry resource center at Yale Divinity School Library. “That’s not the kind of person she was.”
At least two church members say they think that Mrs. Hawke-Petit endorsed an anti-death-penalty document known as a Declaration of Life. The declaration states a person’s opposition to capital punishment and asks that prosecutors, in the event of the person’s own death in a capital crime, do not seek the death penalty. The documents have been signed by thousands of people, including Mario M. Cuomo, the former governor of New York, and Martin Sheen, the actor.
“She was a nurse and she would not cause harm to anyone,” said Lucy Earley, a congregant who notarized at least a dozen declarations during an appeal at the church and said she thought Mrs. Hawke-Petit’s was among them.
Declarations of Life are often kept with a person’s will or other important papers; sometimes they are filed with registries. But it could not be independently determined whether Mrs. Hawke-Petit had signed one. Although the family’s home was heavily damaged in the fire and no independent copies have surfaced, death penalty opponents both inside and outside the church have kept trying to find one. A clear indication that Mrs. Hawke-Petit rejected capital punishment could help them mobilize, they say, not only in the Cheshire case but also on behalf of the nine people on Connecticut’s death row in Somers.
The opponents also say that a signed declaration by Mrs. Hawke-Petit opposing capital punishment could help counter the public outrage to the killings — outrage that has pressured state officials to suspend parole for violent criminals.
I'm about to make a really terrible sounding statement -- the views of Jennifer Hawke-Petit (or her daughters, or her surviving husband and other family members) on the death penalty are at best tangentially relevant to the eventual sentence given in this case. When prosecuted, the case will not be prosecuted in her name -- it will be prosecuted in the name of the people of the state of Connecticut, recognizing that the offense committed was not just against her and her family, but also against society as a whole. Indeed, the question is what do the people of Connecticut view as an appropriate punishment for the horrific events that took place this summer -- views quite clearly expressed in support of the death penalty.
But I put a different question to those anti-death penalty ideologues who urge that the victim's views should be the overriding factor in determining the sentence for murder -- if a victim left behind some clear demand for the execution of their murderers, would you be equally passionate in demanding that execution be the only option at sentencing? If their clearly articulated religious views supported the death penalty, would you insist that they be the guiding force in this case? Or would you argue, in typical liberal fashion, that your views are so much more compassionate and humane and advance than theirs and that your views must therefore override the wishes of the victim? You don't need to answer -- we already know.
Still, if proof of Mrs. Hawke-Petit’s sentiments did surface, it would have little standing in court, lawyers and prosecutors say.
“Our job is to enforce the law no matter who the victim is or what the victim’s religious beliefs are,” said John A. Connelly, a veteran prosecutor in Waterbury who is not involved in the Cheshire case. “If you started imposing the death penalty based on what the victim’s family felt, it would truly become arbitrary and capricious.”
Michael Dearington, the state’s attorney who is prosecuting the suspects in the Petit killings, said he did not know whether Mrs. Hawke-Petit had signed a Declaration of Life. Asked if he knew Dr. Petit’s views on the death penalty, he replied, “I have a no comment on that.”
Interestingly enough, the article goes on to indicate that Dr. Petit is in support of the death penalty in this case. That creates an interesting problem for those who talk about "restorative justice", because it appears that the one surviving victim may have a very different view of what it will take for justice to be done. And while there is an anecdote regarding the use of the Prayer of St. Francis at the memorial service for his murdered family, and his struggle with the word pardon, let us not forget that forgiveness and justice are not mutually exclusive concepts in the Christian tradition, or in the American legal system.
I'm going to stop the fisking at this point. I do so for two reasons.
1) Much of the rest of the article constitutes a rehashing of the same issues raised earlier. and a focus on some genuinely good and decent works of the congregation. Frankly, I admire much of what is reported here, and do not doubt the people of the congregation are men and women of faith seeking to follow the Gospel. While I disagree with them on some points (in particular the death penalty issue), I respect them and mean nothing in the way of disrespect for them in anything I have written.
2) It hits too close to home. Jennifer Hawke-Petit, you see, was a friend of my wife's when they were growing up in Pennsylvania. She attended the couple's wedding, and the baptism of Hayley, their oldest daughter. She worked for Jennifer Hawke-Petit's father for a time. The events of this summer caused much anguish around our home, and much talk the victims and their families. I choose to honor those things revealed by not speaking of them more publicly in this forum.
Noting that Jindal, 36, chose the nickname Bobby in place of his given name, Piyush, as a toddler and converted from Hinduism to Christianity in high school, some have accused him of being a "potato": brown on the outside, white on the inside.
Shameful. Absolutely shameful. And no more acceptable than the "Is Obama black enough" meme of a few weeks back.
Jindal's crime, other than conservatism and Christianity, seems to be encapsulated in this view of the America.
“People want to make everything about race. The only colors that matter here are red, white and blue."
Why won't the media -- and too many Americans of minority ethnicities -- begin to embrace the views of one of the great men of twentieth century America?
I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today....
This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania! Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado! Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California! But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia! Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee! Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
Bobby Jindal has embraced that vision. The voters of Louisiana have embraced that vision. The Republican Party has embraced that vision. When will the press, the ethnic and racial grievance mongers, and the Left embrace that vision?
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And that it is not revealing of a great deal about the lawyer making the argument.
The first jury trial Mrs. Clinton handled on her own, for instance, concerned the rear end of a rat in a can of pork and beans. She represented the cannery, and she argued that there had been no real harm, as the plaintiff did not actually eat the rat. “Besides,” she wrote in her autobiography, describing her client’s position, “the rodent parts which had been sterilized might be considered edible in certain parts of the world.”
The jury seemed to buy her argument, more or less, as it awarded only token damages. But no one was particularly happy about the case or her performance. Her former partner, Webster L. Hubbell, told one of her biographers that she was “amazingly nervous” in speaking to the jury.
Tell me, friends, doesn't that sound like precisely the sort of argument that she would make in favor of socialized medicine?
'Shoot first' laws make it tougher for burglars in the United States
Of course, they do manage to find (and extensively quote) a liberal whiner to make it appear that making things tougher for burglars is a bad thing.
But for the Freedom States Alliance that fights against the proliferation of firearms in the United States, these new laws attach more value to threatened belongings than to the life of the thief and only serve to increase the number of people killed by firearms each year, which currently is estimated to stand at nearly 30,000.
"It's that whole Wild West mentality that is leading the country down a very dangerous path," said Sally Slovenski, executive director of the alliance.
"In any other country, something like the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws look like just absolute lunacy," she continued.
"And yet in this country, somehow it's been justified, and people just sort of have come to live with this, and they just don't see the outrage in this."
I'm sorry, I can't help but be outraged that you believe I should give a tinker's damn about the life and safety of someone who breaks into my home. Especially given crimes like this high profile incident that recently took the life of one of my wife's childhood friends and her two daughters.
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You know, Leon Jaworski has been a hero to Democrats for decades. Now it has been shown that he was willing to let a guilty white murderer go free to ensure the conviction of innocent black soldiers.
Guglielmo Olivotto, an Italian prisoner of war, died with a noose around his neck, lynched at a military post on Puget Sound 63 years ago. Samuel Snow, 83, hopes that people will stop blaming him and the 27 other black soldiers convicted of starting the riot that led to Mr. Olivotto’s death. It was one of the largest Army courts-martial of World War II.
This week, a review board issued a ruling that could lead to overturning the convictions of all 28 soldiers, granting honorable discharges and providing them with back pay.
The board found that the court-martial was flawed, that the defense was unjustly rushed and that the prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, a young lieutenant colonel who went on to fame three decades later as a Watergate special prosecutor, had important evidence that he did not share with defense lawyers.
All of the 28 have died except for Mr. Snow and another soldier.
Leon Jaworski went on to fame and fortune after railroading these men. Why did he ignore the evidence and insist upon sending them to prison? Could it have been the race of Jaworski's victims -- and of the murderer?
And I wonder -- Jaworski's grandson, Joe Jaworski, is seeking to unseat my state senator. Will he have the integrity to condemn his grandfather for this clear example of prosecutorial misconduct?
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the mock hangings — considered relatively new to the panoply of Halloween mock-menace — have been displayed openly. And they are defended vigorously by people like Jennifer Cervero of Stratford, Conn., who this week removed the figure of a man hanging from a noose in her tree, after protests, but still finds the complaints of racial insensitivity she received “completely overblown and ridiculous.”
“We do up all the holidays really big, and this Halloween we decided to go for the big Wow,” said Miss Cervero, who is white and lives with her mother and sister in Stratford, a mostly white suburb of Bridgeport.
The resulting display included a plastic corpse with its head ripped off, a mechanical ghoul whose head spins around, a rotting corpse — and the offending figure, which she bought from an online catalog that lists it as Item HG-005078: Inflatable Hanging Victim Prop, which she hung, per instructions, from a tree. It cost $89.99.
The Rev. Johnny Gamble, pastor of the Friendship Baptist Church in Stratford, heard complaints from parishioners and went to see it for himself.
“At first, I couldn’t believe my eyes. But there it was. A mannequin of a black man, hanging from the neck,” said Mr. Gamble, who is black.
When he knocked at the door, Joyce Mounajed, Miss Cervero’s mother, told him the figure was not meant to be a black man, but was dark-hued to convey the idea of decaying flesh. It was “just a decoration,” he said she told him.
“I told her, ‘We don’t decorate like that. That is a symbol of lynching,’” Mr. Gamble said. “What if my great-grandfather was lynched? There are no two ways of looking at this; that thing is extremely offensive.”
My response to Mr. Gamble would have been "You don't decorate like that? Fine. We do. That constitutes evidence that there are, in fact two ways of looking at this. Welcome to America, the land of freedom. Now quit trying to impose your politically correct values on me and get off my property before I call the cops and have you arrested for trespassing."
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Rather than allow the traditional flag-folding ceremony as an option at the burial of our nation's veterans, the long-standing tradition has been banned by a government bureaucrat? Why? Because of a complaint over a reference to God.
Flag-folding recitations by Memorial Honor Detail volunteers are now banned at the nation’s 125 veterans graveyards because of a complaint about the ceremony at Riverside National Cemetery.
During thousands of military burials, the volunteers have folded the American flag 13 times and recited the significance of every fold to survivors.
The first fold represents life, the second a belief in eternal life, and so on.
The complaint revolved around the narration in the 11th fold, which celebrates Jewish war veterans and “glorifies the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.”
The National Cemetery Administration then decided to ban the entire recital at all national cemeteries. Details of the complaint weren’t disclosed.
Administration spokesman Mike Nacincik said the new policy outlined in a Sept. 27 memorandum is aimed at creating uniform services throughout the military graveyard system.
He said the 13-fold recital is not part of the U.S. Flag Code and is not government-approved.
And, of course, we can't have anything that isn't in the Flag Code. So let's ban the ceremony by government fiat. As I recall, though, the Flag Code also bans disrespectful burning of the flag. I guess that some speech is just a little more equal than other speech.
But most distressing is that a single complaint has resulted in the destruction of a long-standing tradition, and its denial to those who find comfort in the ceremony at a time of loss. Wouldn't a reasonable approach have been to require that the family be asked as a part of the funeral arrangements whether the ritual was welcome?
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A veteran should be able to have the ceremony at his or her burial as long as no one is forced to participate. This is not about someone else. It is their memorial. Our country is now about the rights of everyone except Christians. Christians are the only ones in our country who have no right to their beliefs. Nothing is being done about hate crimes against Christians. Wake up people, what is wrong with honoring those who gave at least a part of their life for this country.
Imagine arising on a fall morning in 1947 to read this in the paper.
In late June, three of Adolf Hitler’s senior military officials were found guilty of war crimes, including the notorious henchman Hermann Goering. Iraqi law required that they be executed no more than 30 days after the German courts rejected their final appeals.
That deadline has passed, but the men are still alive and in United States custody. The execution has been delayed because of questions raised by some German politicians and a spirited behind-the-scenes discussion involving senior German and American officials over the death sentence of one of the other men, Joachim von Ribbentrop, the former foreign.
Now, Mr. von Ribbentrop’s fate has become a test case for reconciliation and whether Germany's’s fractious parties and political alliances can work together to resolve the difficult issues surrounding his death sentence. There are also doubts among some German officials about the fairness of his punishment.
Of course, no such article would ever be written. No such dispute or delay would ever have been allowed to override justice being done. Indeed, the New York Times would have been shouting for blood, and condemning any who dared stand in the way of the sentences being carried out.
What a difference six decades makes, as this sympathetic piece in the New York Times today shows.
In late June, three of Saddam Hussein’s senior military officials were found guilty of war crimes, including the notorious henchman known as Chemical Ali. Iraqi law required that they be executed no more than 30 days after the Iraqi courts rejected their final appeals.
That deadline has passed, but the men are still alive and in United States custody. The execution has been delayed because of questions raised by some Iraqi politicians and a spirited behind-the-scenes discussion involving senior Iraqi and American officials over the death sentence of one of the other men, Sultan Hashem Ahmed al-Jabouri al-Tai, the former minister of defense.
Now, Mr. Hashem’s fate has become a test case for reconciliation and whether Iraq’s fractious sects and political alliances can work together to resolve the difficult issues surrounding his death sentence. There are also doubts among some Iraqi officials about the fairness of his punishment.
Beyond the heated arguments about Mr. Hashem’s guilt lies the fraught question of whether Iraqis are ready to stop the retributive killing of members of the former government. It seems that some of them are.
Beyond the heated arguments about Mr. Hashem’s guilt lies the fraught question of whether Iraqis are ready to stop the retributive killing of members of the former government. It seems that some of them are.
I don't know about you, but that this article is being written with such an approving tone strikes me as rather chilling. But then again, given the tendency of the mass media to give aid and comfort, if not explicit support, to the enemies of America, maybe I couldn't be surprised. No doubt they would find a few positive words for the condemned Nazis today.
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Well, looks like Ron Paul is going to try to expand his base beyond the internet lunatic crowd. Now he's trying to infect attract the general public with a radio and television campaign.
Hoping to defy more expectations, Rep. Ron Paul is ratcheting up his maverick Republican presidential campaign by launching TV and radio commercials in early primary states and setting an ambitious $12 million fundraising goal.
For a candidate often relegated by pundits to second- or third-tier status, Paul's ability to make a big entry into advertising wars is unusual.
With just over two months until the first primaries, experts question whether the libertarian-leaning congressman from Lake Jackson can expand his intense following to make a credible showing in these early contests.
Officials with Paul's campaign acknowledge they have an uphill battle, but say they plan to broaden his support with an advertising campaign that includes $1.1 million in television spots that begin airing Monday in New Hampshire.
Now the Paul campaign is sitting on a chunk of cash, and has apparently decided to use it to communicate his sometimes reasonable, sometimes bizarre message. That is great, because there are some positive points in his message, things that I do agree with. Unfortunately, he has become a magnet for every conspiracist, lunatic, and extremist out there, as I've pointed out more than once.
Since he'll take their endorsement and their money without comment, I wonder if any of his money will go to Stormfront Radio?
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As a lunatic residing on the internet, may I ask which position of Ron Paul's you find most b i z a r r e ? (I only spaced out that word because it freaked out your screening program for some reason)
It's often the case with Ron Paul haters that what then they say "Ron Paul's position on X is crazy" they really mean "I don't understand Ron Paul's position on X."
Just another lunatic here mindlessly defending Ron Paul. I know you wish we'd all just go away but the fact is we're not going to.
Dr. Paul is the only candidate on the GOP side who is a true Republican. He is also the only candidate on either side who has a chance to defeat Clinton.
You can attempt to tie him to white supremacist groups if you wish but anyone who seeks out information concerning this man will quickly dismiss this and any other character assassination s.
I am not here to disrespect you or your blog. I just thought the white supremacist remark was ill founded.
He has been endorsed by white supremacists and refuses to reject their support.
One major white supremacist site, Stormfront, has links directly to Ron Paul's donation page -- and the campaign has not acted to have that link removed or to stop folks coming from Stormfront from donating (you know, by having their site refuse redirects from Stormfront).
He is now clearly tied to white supremacy by a donation from the fellow who runs Stormfront, which the campaign has not returned or donated elsewhere in an effort to cleanse itself from the link to racism.
Taken together, it is clear that Ron Paul welcomes white supremacists to his coalition. Speaking as a Republican, I can tell you that such a move is hardly indicative true Republicanism. Real Republicans reject racism and racists. It is therefore clear that Ron Paul is not a true Republican.
I'm getting tired of having to rebut these slanderous articles. All Americans, no matter how crazy they may be, have a right to donate to whichever candidate they want. In fact, only crazy people and felons can't vote but I don't know if that stops them from donating. To me, donations are a form of free speech so no matter how hateful or absurd that speech may be it is still protected. Would I take the donations? Probably, not. But I'm not as strict about following the constitution as Dr. Paul is either.
With that said, can't you think of some better dirt to dig up? I'll even help you. These numbers are from the center for responsive politics at opensecrets.org:
Lobbyist donation totals at end of 3rd Quarter:
Hillary: $518K
McCain: $315K
Romney: $216K
Dodd: $212K
Giuliani: $206K
Ron Paul: $0.00
Casinos/Gambling:
Giuliani: $176K
McCain: $108K
Ron Paul: $3K
Oil & Gas Industries:
Giuliani: $541K
Romney: $296K
Clinton: $211K
McCain: $190K
Ron Paul: $30K - and he lives outside of Houston!
Hedge Funds & Private Equity:
Giuliani: $1.131 MILLION
Clinton: $971K
Obama: $950K
Romney: $946K
Dodd: $916K
Ron Paul: $5K
Securities & Investment Industries:
Clinton: $4.7 MILLION
Giuliani: $4.4 MILLION
Obama: $4.4 MILLION
Romney: $3.5 MILLION
Dodd: $2.6 MILLION
McCain: $1.8 MILLION
Ron Paul $82K
Lawyers & Law Firms:
Clinton: $9.2 MILLION
Edwards: $8.1 MILLION
Obama: $7.8 MILLION
Giuliani: $3.1 MILLION
Ron Paul: $76K
With that information... do you think you might be able to dig up a story a little more interesting than a couple of racist stormfront owners? We're talking millions of dollars here folks, not small potatoes like $500 or a couple thousand bucks. Perhaps some of the clients of the lawyers and lawfirms that make up Clinton's $9.2 Million dollars from that group have represented cases for neo-nazis? Or maybe corrupt drug industries? I'd say it's a pretty good bet.
Seems like ol' Murdoch, the owner of Fox News, is a fan of Hillary for 2008. He's donated directly $2,300 to her run at the primary and indirectly to "Friends of Hillary" in 2006. I wondered why Fox News keeps propping up the totally un-electable Rudy Giuliani while at the same time discrediting Dr. Paul as much as possible. The debate questioners are making a point to ask questions about Hillary as much as possible. They're subtly convincing America of Hillary's inevitability and they're very good at it. Fact is that Paul cuts to the "left" of Hillary on the war and to the "right" on everything else. He's got perhaps the most electable position on nearly every issue of any candidate in decades. This is a real danger for Hillary and it explains a lot about Fox News' actions this year.
Will you explain how telling the truth about who a candidate takes money from is slanderous?
By the way, all candidates have the right to reject donations from those they find morally or politically repugnant.
That Ron Paul is keeping the money from Stormfront referrals and Stormfront's owner is proof that he does not find racists like the neo-Nazis and White Supremacists at Stormfront to be all that objectionable.
Which in turn tells us just how objectionable Ron Paul really is.
Oh, and Christopher, I life outside Houston, too -- and am in the last precinct north of Ron Paul's congressional district.
Why isn't he getting the oil and gas money? Because these folks know Ron Paul! The fact that folks who know him and have dealt with him -- folks who live in his district -- won't give to him should cause you to ask some questions.
And by the way -- if you are arguing that everyone has a right to give money to campaigns, what is your point in listing who got what from whom? After all, by the standard you set, those numbers are irrelevant and mean nothing. Why are you making "slanderous" comments on my website when "all Americans, no matter how crazy they may be, have a right to donate to whichever candidate they want." Are you trying to suppress the rightful political participation of people in these various industries?
The author is trying to paint Dr. Paul as being a racist or extremist because he doesn't reject every objectionable donation he gets:
"Unfortunately, he has become a magnet for every conspiracist, lunatic, and extremist out there, as I've pointed out more than once..."
While technically I guess you could say it isn't "slanderous" it is definitely a smear tactic. It is also rather unfair because "as he's pointed out more than once" he doesn't seem to give a proportional amount of time to scrutinizing the other candidates. It is actually rather hard to go through Dr. Paul's history and find negative stuff about him so the fact that people bring up a couple of racist donations while turning a blind eye to the other candidates makes me think that this is a smear campaign against Paul for reasons that I can't determine. What are the motives behind these articles? Is it to tell information that we truly need to know about Dr. Paul? Why doesn't he spend more time trying to find out if convicted felons (like Martha Stewart) are donating to anybody? These are questions that should be asked of all journalists that purposefully put out articles that show a good deal of bias in their reporting.
He gets lots of donations from his district in his congressional elections. He has historically had a 3-1 advantage in fund raising in his district even without any support from the Republican party. I'm making the case that "Big Oil" isn't donating a lot to him.
I'm listing all of those other contributions to give balance to the attack on Paul and so you can go and find other things to complain about the other candidates for. If you're telling me that in a collection of no less than 2,000 law firms you can't find any dirt in there where they've defended neo-nazis, corrupt medical companies, or anything else? It is apparent that you have a vendetta against Dr. Paul and I am curious why. I don't think it has anything to do with stormfront. How do you know so much about stormfront anyways? I've never been to their website.
Other notable felon/unsavory/"conflict of neutrality in news" reporting donors:
Tony Sirico, convicted felon, mob ties to colombo crime family: $1,000 to Rudy Giuliani.
Peter Cherin, News Corp. (Fox News) President and COO, $4,600 to Hillary, $2,100 each to Obama and Dodd.
Barry Diller, IAC (media), $4,600 to Clinton and McCain, $2,300 to Biden
Norman Shu... do I really need to talk about it?
Ivan Seidenberg, verizon chariman (media)(illegal federal wiretapping), ceo, $2,300 to Hillary, $2,100 to McCain
I'm tired of looking, there's more if you really want to go check.
Sure these people are allowed to donate but I think due to their status as media executives or convicted criminals they should also have their donations returned if you're going to make Dr. Paul return his stormfront ones. Am I wrong?
Sure these people are allowed to donate but I think due to their status as media executives or convicted criminals they should also have their donations returned if you're going to make Dr. Paul return his stormfront ones. Am I wrong?
Yes, you are -- and if you cannot see why, there isn't enough time in the world to explain why. After all, if you cannot differentiate between those who espouse the philosophy of Adolf Hitler and media executives, it is clear that you are substantially lacking in the moral compass department.
How many times in the last 6 years has Fox allowed the phrase "Islamic Terrorism" to be uttered? I don't care how you paint it - it never comes with a declaration that only 5% of Muslims might actually be terrorists. That is a direct attack on the Muslim population and it is no different than Hitler's attacks on the Jews. I tend to lump the neo-nazis along with the neo-conservatives in that they are all racist, war-mongering folk and if you can't see that than you, sir, are "lacking in the moral compass department".
How do you know so much about stormfront??? I am still very curious about that. I wouldn't even know where to begin looking to find out that kind of information about a presidential candidate.
That Ron Paul is being pushed by Stormfront? Look at the webpage and the video above.
Who the owner of the site is? Public records.
What he has given to Ron Paul? Again, public records.
And that you would make the comment you do regarding neo-conservatives that you do is proof positive that, in addition to a moral compass, you also lack a functioning brain.
And as for Islamic terroism -- when terrorism is committed in the name of Islam, that is the appropriate name for it. Especially when large proportions of the Muslims around the world are supportive of it. For you to equate truthful statements about the connection between Islam and terrorism with false statements about the Jews is frightening.
Oh, and as for you "only 5%" comment -- by my math, that still comes in at 50 million terrorists. That you, Ron Paul, and the bulk of his supporters seem to side with them is pretty telling, and sufficient to explain why he should be defeated in this election and driven from American public life.
Do you propose that we go slaughter 50 million people on suspicion of being terrorists? Not even including collateral damage it would take to kill them all? This is the racism against Islam I am talking about. It is at least as dangerous as Hitler.
Funny, I never suggested any such thing. If your assumption is that my statement equates to a call to "slaughter 50 million people" to defend our nation, then you are clearly not in contact with reality.
On the other hand, am I quite willing to see our military bring about the deaths of any individual who seeks to attack our country? Damn straight I am, without apology.
And by the way, your heartfelt concern over collateral damages would have required you, philosophically, to oppose US participation in WWII after we were attacked. Methinks I see why you object to my comments about Ron Paul and Stormfront.
Democrats seemed to be trying "to drill enough small holes in the bottom of the boat to sink the entire Iraqi enterprise, while still claiming undying support for the crew about to drown," said Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia.
When you see a person of color, you expect someone with similar values, views, beliefs — someone in touch with the emerging new majority. With Jindal, you get someone who very deliberately and proudly downplays his race in order to seek his own individual path. That kind of independence under certain circumstances may be commendable. But only if you happen to agree with his ideas that range from free-market health care, intelligent design instead of evolution, anti-choice and a fenced-in America.
In other words, independent thought is only OK when it leads you to the same conclusion as everyone else. "People of color" have no right to be diverse, the argument goes, because it somehow betrays the collective and their interests.
Tell me, though -- what is it about being Asian-American that requires one support socialized medicine? Is there some reason that one whose ancestry comes from East that obliges one to accept Godless evolution over the notion that there was a Creator of some sort? Does an Oriental heritage mandate taking the anti-life position on abortion? And is there something peculiarly and exclusively Occidental about a desire to see the sovereignty of the United States upheld and our immigration laws enforced so that all who come here are law-abiding?
One would think not, if one is a thinking person. There is no mandatory race-based political ideology, just as there is no exclusively "White" position on these issues that must be upheld lest one be a race-traitor. Indeed, suggesting such a thing would be seen as proof positive that one is a racist of the most vile ilk. And that is precisely the category to which individuals of good will must consign Emil Guillermo and the editors who allowed his piece to be published.
Because after all, the Asian community is a diverse one, encompassing multiple cultures, languages and religious faiths, not to mention histories. With all the contempt for assimilation and support for diversity mouthed by Guillermo, why does he insist that every individual of Asian-American heritage must behave as a part of a Borg-like left-wing racial collective?
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For whatever reason, I'm still having issues with trackbacks from my blog (thanks WordPress). So the two entries I'm shamelessly plugging this weekend (thus far) are:
“King Tut” — Steve Martin & The Toot Uncommons
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A video trip back down memory lane inspired by an entry on Planck's Constant blog about Egyptian artifacts, etc.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal — Pt. Deux
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Well, another liberal shows his true colors and as such shows why liberals don't follow the mantra of tolerance they espouse.
Seems like a much more fitting punishment for this crime, even though we can't do it under our system of laws.
A man who tossed a 10-week-old puppy off a third-story balcony during an argument with his girlfriend was sentenced to three years in prison Thursday by a judge who said he wanted to "send a message."
Javon Patrick Morris pleaded guilty to animal cruelty after throwing the animal off a North Charleston apartment balcony in March.
The animal, a Yorkiepoo, was in a soft-sided container. It suffered severe head trauma, among other injuries, and had to be euthanized.
Morris, 22, said he was sorry before his sentencing in the Charleston County Courthouse. But Circuit Judge Edward Cottingham, who's owned nine dogs, seemed taken aback by the severity of the crime.
"You mean he threw a helpless animal off three floors because he was mad at someone?" Cottingham asked 9th Circuit Assistant Solicitor Stephanie Bianco.
Of course, we would have to make the drop proportionally higher – I think the Empire State Building’s observation deck might just be high enough.
Dhimmicrats Allow Candidates To Appear In Michigan
But only for one special group – Arabs/Muslims. If you are a Christian, a Jew, a Hispanic, or an African-American in Michigan, the Democrat presidential candidates are not allowed to seek your vote.
Hundreds of Arab-Americans and members of the Washington political establishment will meet in Dearborn this weekend for a national conference amid concerns that while Arab-Americans are increasingly courted for votes, attempts also are made to exclude them from the public discourse.
The sessions are considered significant enough that the Democratic chairs of the party in Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina extended a singular exemption from a ban on candidates campaigning in Michigan -- in a dispute over scheduling the primary -- so that candidates could attend the National Leadership Conference of the Arab American Institute, beginning today.
Can we get someone to file a complaint with the US Department of Justice over this issue? It is a clear violation of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, granting special political privileges to one ethnic/religious group that are not extended to other Americans.
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One good thing is coming out of the decision to allow schools in one Maine community to dispense birth control to children as young as 11. These same schools will now start following state law and require the reporting of sex involving those under the age of 14 to the authorities.
Portland's school-based health centers have not been reporting all illegal sexual activity involving minors as required by law, but they will from now on, city officials said Thursday.
Cumberland County District Attorney Stephanie Anderson questioned the health centers' reporting practices after the Portland School Committee decided last week to offer prescription birth control at the King Middle School health center.
The King Student Health Center has offered comprehensive reproductive health care, including providing condoms and testing for sexually transmitted diseases, since it opened in 2000. The school serves students in grades 6 to 8, ages 11 to 15.
Maine law prohibits having sex with a person under age 14, regardless of the age of the other person involved, Anderson said.
A health care provider must report all known or suspected cases of sex with minors age 13 and under to the state Department of Health and Human Services, she said. Abuse also must be reported to the appropriate district attorney's office, Anderson said, when the suspected perpetrator is someone other than the minor's parent or guardian.
"When it's somebody under age 14, it is a crime and it must be reported," Anderson said. "The health care provider has no discretion in the matter. It's up to the district attorney to decide."
It seems that school officials hadn’t bee following the law, including the health care “professionals” at the school clinic. I hope that while the local DA subpoenas the records of the clinic to determine whether past criminal violations have not been reported, and that appropriate sanctions are taken against the licensure of those who failed to follow the law.
After all -- we in education have a legal obligation, not to mention a moral one, to protect the children in our care.
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Is anyone else disgusted that a public university would cave in to a request likethis?
Yesterday, the University of Delaware asked Asaf Romirowsky to step down from an academic panel at the University of Delaware because another panelist, University of Delaware political scientist Muqtedar Khan, didn't want to share the podium with anyone who served in the Israeli Defense Forces. Romirowsky, who holds joint American/Israeli citizenship and lives in Philadelphia, had been invited to join Khan, his colleague in political science, Stuart Kaufman, a staff member of the National Security Council during the Clinton administration, and a graduate student to discuss anti-Americanism in the Middle East. The program was organized by the College Republicans, the College Democrats, and the Students of Western Civilization Club. The Leadership Institute provided the funds for the panel, which met on the University of Delaware campus on Wednesday evening. The students offered Romirowsky the opportunity to come to campus next week and speak alone, with no other panel members who might object to his presence.
Khan is not just a faculty member at the university – he is also a staff member of the Brookings Institution and spoke the same day at the Pentagon. That he would make the request indicates his inability to fairly deal with any Israeli student – and perhaps any Jewish student. It also indicates that he is someone who has no place helping to guide and direct the formation of our national defense policy.
But more disturbing than the request is the willingness of a public university to give in to the demands of an anti-Semitic pig like Khan. The appropriate response would have been to rescind the invitation to Khan – and to review his employment status in light of the questions raised by the request. To take the path they did was to cave in to dhimmitude.
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I grew up the son of a military officer during time of war. I know what it is like to have a parent gone, and the anticipation of their safe return. Most schools try hard to support such kids – and I love the way this school handled this homecoming.
Brittainy and Madison were hoping their dad, Maj. Robert Thomas, would come home from Iraq in the next couple of weeks.
So it's no wonder they were bowled over when he walked into their school's gymnasium during a student program about patriotism Thursday.
"I thought we were just going to read our (essays) about patriotism," said Brittainy, 11, and a fifth-grader at Atwood Elementary School in Macomb Township. Atwood is in the L'Anse Creuse Public Schools district.
"I had no idea my dad was going to be here," she said. "I'm just really happy my dad is home."
Madison, 6, was also surprised.
"I thought my dad would be home for my birthday on Nov. 8," she said. "I guess I was wrong."
The girls' father returned home Thursday morning after serving in the Army in Iraq for about a year.
I encourage you to read the rest of the article. I’m proud of these fellow educators who handled this special situation with class and dignity – and who turned a special family event into a special learning experience for the whole school.
And call me a sucker, but I cried while reading about the event.
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Now we can argue over whether or not the response to receiving the books is the correct one, but I think this situation raises a different question that is being overlooked.
Two dozen Oklahoma lawmakers plan to return copies of the Quran to a state panel on diversity after a lawmaker claimed the Muslim holy book condones the killing of innocent people.
The books were given to Oklahoma's 149 senators and representatives by the Governor's Ethnic American Advisory Council.
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[Council Chairperson Marjaneh] Seirafi-Pour said the gift was a way to introduce the council to lawmakers so they could use it as a resource to "serve their offices and constituents." Oklahoma lawmakers also received a copy of the Bible earlier this year from The Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma.
Now did anyone catch the troubling detail in the excerpt? If you didn’t, go back and look again. The books were given to the legislators by an official governmental panel. Why was that? Isn’t that a violation of the constitutional separation of mosque and state? How much government money was spent procuring the books and distributing them to the legislators? Were the sacred texts of other religious groups also distributed by the Governor’s Ethnic American Advisory Council, or did they specifically act to establish Islam as the state religion of Oklahoma? Do Buddhists, Hindus, and other religious believers qualify as second-class citizens in the eyes of these multi-culti buffoons, if their books were not also distributed to enable legislators to “serve their offices and constituents”? Given the large population of Native Americans in Oklahoma (certainly outnumbering Muslims), were Cherokee and other tribal religious texts also put into the offices of legislators?
And don’t try to compare that to the gift of the Bibles, because those came to the legislators from a private organization, not an arm of the government. These Qurans came with the official imprimatur of the executive branch.
Where is the freakin’ ACLU on this one, folks? Or do the rules that apply to Christians not apply to Muslims?
UPDATE: I just came across this information regarding the distribution of the Qurans.
Gov. Brad Henry's Muslim advisory council is offering personalized Korans to lawmakers to mark the state's centennial, with each copy to be embossed with the Oklahoma state seal and the recipient lawmaker's name. The all-Muslim group — plain-vanilla-named the American Ethnic Advisory Council — asked lawmakers to notify it if they didn't want a Koran, which the group described as "the record of the exact words revealed by G-d through the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad." So far, 24 have declined.
Of course, it's the rejection of the Korans that's making headlines, not their state-sealed if privately funded distribution. No one asks what the Koran has to do with Oklahoma's centennial, for Pete's sake; or why a government organization is proselytizing about "the exact words" of Allah; or how those words in that book sound to non-Muslims leery of Islam's age-old message to convert, submit or die. In our weird world, it's not the Islamic message that's branded hateful or even insensitive; it's the person who rejects it. This is the technique that usually shuts people up.
If this is correct, the books themselves are privately funded – but still being distributed by a government panel. This still seems to be creating a “mosque and state” problem to me.
Second, why is an “Ethnic American” group composed solely of Muslims? Even if, as Diana West notes later in the column, it was intended to be a group to be composed of members of the "Middle East/Near East community", why are there no Arab Christians or Middle Eastern Jews? Why doesn’t its name clarify what “ethnic Americans” it is intended to “advise” about if it is intended to be an exclusively Muslim group? Could it be intended to disguise the “mosque and state” violation in question?
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Congrats and deservedly so. There's not a morning goes by that I don't check in for a dose of your wisdom. Your views and opinions are enjoyed.
Congratulations! Being listed with the likes of Michelle Malkin and Glenn Reynolds is surely an honor.
Its an interesting study. It first struck me that none of the listed blogs were the usual big loud and cranky leftist trash. The listings consisted mostly of well reasoned bloggers. What the study was measuring though was the mathematics involved as to who is getting out the storys in a timely way. It's now proven that the rant blogs are not about getting real content such as events and facts but blowing steam.
|| Posted by Liberty, October 27, 2007 06:48 AM ||
After all, the President has proposed an increase, just not the gargantuan expansion of the health insurance program for poor kids to include adults and middle class kids, too.
And Republicans in Congress have proposed an even bigger increase than the President -- but again, keeping the program for poor kids, not the children of families making $60K a year.
But that isn't enough for the NYTimes, which has the audacity to complain about the president being driven by ideology.
The House approved a revised bill to finance the children’s health insurance program yesterday by a 265-to-142 margin — a strong mandate, but still not enough to overcome another promised veto by President Bush.
If the president carries out this threat, we hope Congressional tacticians can find a way to enact this important measure over the adamant, ideologically driven opposition of Mr. Bush and House Republican leaders. The health of millions of children who lack insurance cannot be held hostage to the president’s visceral distaste for government and its essential role to protect the weak, or his desire to protect the tobacco industry.
Desire to protect the tobacco industry? Where does that one come from?
And is it just me, or is the complaint by the editors of the New York Times to ideologically driven positions on policy issues somewhat akin to complaints about from a hooker about the loose sexual morality of women in contemporary society?
The fine conservative site RedState recently announced its decision to ban comments favoring Ron Paul by newly registered members, based upon a documented problem with the Ronulans. Whether or not this is the correct move is subject to debate, but it is hard to call teh decision illegitimate in light of the behavior of many Ron paul supporters around the internet.
Erickson thinks that they're a human political cocktail of Code Pink activists and Neo Nazis, and he doesn't expect them to vote for anyone other than Paul.
All thinks that a lot of them are those who buy into Paul's message of limited government and fiscal responsibility.
I don't think I qualify as a Neo-Nazi or a Code Pink activist. Full Wired story here. But here's a simple message to Ron Paul supporters. You're welcome here. The Dish believes in expanding the range of debate among conservatives, not crushing it. And any cursory look at the degenerate state of American conservatism would not lead you to think your problem is too much diversity of opinion.
Really, Andrew? That's odd -- you don't allow comments at all from anyone, though you do allow trackbacks.
Tell me, sir, how your no-comment site promotes dialogue and debate. Seems to me that your comment-free zone stifles that debate. As such, I hope you don't mind if I refer to this as a classic case of "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy on your part.
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Matt, David, and the rest of the folks at LoneStarTimes.com have dug up what ought to be a big scandal -- Ron Paul is taking campaign cash from Nazis, including the owner of the biggest neo-Nazi site on the internet (and the current husband of the former Mrs. David Duke).
A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.
The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.
Now LST has been raising the issue of links to Paul's website (including a fundraising widget) from Stormfront for some time now, without response from the Paul campaign. Paul has not renounced support from white supremacists like Black and Stormfront, despite his campaign being made aware of the links from the racist site. Furthermore, Paul's association with (and courting of) 9/11 Truthers, rabid anti-Zionists, and militia supporters clearly walks him to the extreme fringe of American politics -- right to the very neighborhood inhabited by the neo-Nazis.
Interestingly enough, Ron Paul supporters commenting at LST are defending the acceptance of white supremacist cash, and arguing that LST is in the wrong for revealing the connection.
Will Ron Paul do the right thing in this case? Or will he keep the cash, thereby verifying that he is the candidate of the freaks, weirdos and nutjobs of the internet?
That means YOU, mainstream media producer/reporter/outlet!
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A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.
The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.
Previous LST posts have focused on banner “widgets” appearing on the front-page of Stormfront. It is important to emphasize that these are NOT “advertisements” placed on Stormfront BY the Paul campaign, but rather publicly-available graphics that Stormfront’s owner has chosen to place himself, with links directly to Paul’s donation page.
Nevertheless, LST has in the past several weeks raised a series of questions for the Paul campaign; specifically–
Can Paul confirm that the donation widgets appearing on Stormfront are the result of the site owner’s actions, not the campaign’s?
Will Paul take measures to block Stormfront as a referring URL to his own website, so that no future donations can possibly flow into his campaign from a site that serves as the on-line nexus of neo-Nazism?
Will Paul ask his own web-staff to trace past donations that were made by anyone arriving at his campaign’s webpage from Stormfront, so that these contributions can be rejected?
Will Paul explore if there are any legal actions available to try to remove his donation widget from Stormfront, and if so pursue them?
At the very least, will Paul personally state publicly, vigorously and unmistakably that he rejects the support of white supremacists, and that he will not knowingly tolerate their involvement with his campaign in any form or to any degree?
LoneStarTimes.com’s managing editor Matt Bramanti left multiple messages last week for officials in Paul’s national campaign press office seeking comment. None were returned.
In the interim, a number of grassroots supporters of Paul’s campaign– including many honorable and regular readers of LST– have argued that…
It is unfair to hold Paul responsible for receiving political support from racists/neo-Nazis if that support was unsolicited by Paul;
Paul hasn’t, in fact, solicited white-supremacist support; AND
Paul’s campaign has no practical way of knowing whether or not a specific financial contribution made has come from a neo-Nazi.
These abstract debates are now moot– a contribution to the Paul campaign by a known white-supremacist has been identified.
The evidence is as follows:
Black proudly and openly identifies himself as Stormfront’s guiding hand, and publishes a contact address on the Internet– PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach, FL, 33405
A search by LST of public databases indicates that there is only one “Don Black” residing in West Palm Beach, Florida, zip code 33405
A 7/16/01 USA Today article identifies Black’s wife as being named “Chloe”
That same article identifies Chloe as being the ex-wife of close Black associate and former “Grand Wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke
Minutes of a 9/7/07 City of West Palm Beach code-compliance hearing identify “Chloe H. Duke” as owning a residential property located at 203 Lakeland Drive
According to Federal Election Commission records, on 9/30/07 the Ron Paul presidential campaign received a $500 contribution from a Mr. Don Black, who lists his address as 203 Lakeland Drive and identifies his occupation as “self-employed/website manager”
In light of these facts, we believe our previously asked questions continue to have merit.
A final note– it is traditional in political campaigns for candidates to return contributions from “toxic” donors once sufficient public scrutiny and outcry has been generated.
The difficulty in this instance is that if Ron Paul returns these funds to Mr. Black, all he will have done is given a neo-Nazi $500 more dollars with which to spread his psychotic bile.
We would therefore like to suggest that the Ron Paul campaign donate Black’s $500 to any of the following worthy recipients–
One Family Fund (which works to rebuild the shattered lives of Israeli victims of Arab terror; $500 would make Dr. Paul a “healer”)
Aish Ha’Torah (dynamic Jewish educational foundation; Aish donations are set according to funky Kabbalah-based giving levels–$18, $36, $180, etc.–but for $500 Dr. Paul could simultaneously become a “Friend of the Wall” and a “Gate of Wisdom,” which would entitle him to both a Sterling Silver Menorah bookmark with certificate of authenticity from the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, and a Western Wall Images CD with over 500 unique photos of life at the Western Wall– perfect “re-gifting” items for the fast-approaching Hanukkah season)
We try to be helpful.
Matt Bramanti, Managing Editor (Gentile Stooge) David Benzion, Publisher (Z.O.G. Chapter #1948 President) LoneStarTimes.com
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Giuliani took money from corporations like Goldman Sachs. Should he give that back?
Who cares who associates with Ron Paul? It's not like he's embracing them. Ron Paul is also polling highest with blacks. Clearly his message is extraordinarily racist.
What a silly blog post.
|| Posted by Hotchney, October 25, 2007 07:15 PM ||
I've got no problem with Goldman Sachs -- but I guess you do, given that the name is so Jewish.
And I guess you have no problem with Nazis and white supremacists. Tells us everything there is to say about Ron Paul supporters like you.
Ha, you fool. Always trying to play the race card. You sound like a liberal. Then again you're probably supporting Giuliani so you are one. I have no problem with Goldman- Sachs. I just don't like voting for candidates who are manipulated by special-interests. Giuliani is knee deep in them. Of course, you don't care about that. Who cares if our politicians are honest. As long as they don't take money from private citizens with racist backrounds.
Right.
|| Posted by Hotchney, October 25, 2007 07:28 PM ||
Odd -- I conclude from your support for Ron Paul's keeping donations from a Nazi and your gratuitous reference to a company founded by Jews that you must be a bigot yourself.
You, on the other hand, take my objection to racism and anti-Semitism to be signs that I am a liberal, that I support a particular candidate, and that I don't care about government corruption. On all three points you are wrong.
That is precisely the problem with Ron Paul supporters -- their fact-free view of the world.
This is getting stupid. How do you propose we go about eliminating problems like white supremacists donating money to candidates? Having all donors pass a background check first? What is to stop a white supremacist from donating to any campaign? I bet some have donated to Romney's campaign, as there is a strong white supremacist streak in the LDS community around Utah and Idaho. I oughta know: I lived there. Somehow though, I don't think that concerns you. Somehow, I think you just *enjoy* attempting to trash Ron Paul's campaign.
Whatever.
Makes me glad I dropped out of politics. Who needs politicians anyway?
Actually, you guys have developed an almost religious faith in Ron Paul. No wonder you treat criticism of the man the same way Muslims treat criticism of Muhammad.
And the ideas from people like Giuliani to prance around the world nation-building, wasting trillions of dollars we don't have is fact-imbued? I never thought following the constitution was such a bad idea, although liberals like yourself seem to think that it is a bad idea.
|| Posted by Hotchney, October 25, 2007 08:25 PM ||
I'm no liberal, despite your willingness to keep throwing around the charge.
And I'm no Giuliani supporter, despite your insistence that I am.
Like I said -- you live in a fact-free world. And like most of your Ronulan ilk, you insist upon defaming and insulting anyone who does not bow down before the altar of Ron Paul.
I don't insist you bow down. I do refute your preposterous accusation that Ron Paul supporters live in a fact free world. Some may; most don't.
Who do you support? Or will you not say because you're ashamed of supporting them? Is it tax-hike mike? Or Fred "Uh" Thompson? I had hope for Thompson - until he got into the race. Whew what a dud.
|| Posted by Hotchney, October 25, 2007 10:36 PM ||
Actually, you've refuted nothing. You've yet to offer any proof that I am wrong.
And I've endorsed my candidate on this site more than once -- and the fact that you have no idea who it is constitutes proof that you don't have any facts on your side when you make your assertions.
Today, a life form on AM radio named Michael Meth-head, Med-head, Dead-head, Medved, whatever, claimed that if I googled Ron Paul and Nazis, that I'd find really disturbing facts which Ron Paul needs to acknowledge, etc. The highest ranked site was from Daily Kos and was some bimbo who correctly claimed that Ron Paul was NOT a Nazi and then went on to make idiotic arguments that his foreign policy views were worse than Rudy's because even though Ron Paul is AGAINST the war, he's against it for the wrong REASONS (WTF??!?!?!? Who GIVES a sh*t??!!!). The second highest ranked site for those two phrases was you. All I can say is that if Michael In-bred believes that Ron Paul is a Nazi because he's actually taken cash from them, then he's really not very bright. He's taken money from Strippers for Ron Paul - does that make this Lutheran ultra-gentleman (who will never go with a woman unaccompanied by witnesses he's so in love with his wife and so old-school) a Stripper or a supporter of such practices themselves as opposed to the RIGHTS of women to engage in such professions? You all are stupid, stupid, stupid.
All I can say, Robert, is that your comments and your website prove that you are, in fact, a moron.
Interestingly enough, you don't dispute the fact that he takes money from Nazis. You can't. A true "Lutheran ultra-gentleman" would repudiate such money and support.
The fact is, Ron Paul is not a serious candidate. and the fact that he takes money from NAZI white supremists, is wrong because they are criminals. We are not talking just a regular Joe Blow who happens to know a Nazi, He has taken money from well known....very well known names. Hmmm kind of sounds like Clinton's taking money from Chinese communists! All of the freaks I see waving "google Ron Paul" signs prove that he is associating with the freaks!! can't wait till he is out.
Just because a neo-Nazi contributed funds to the Ron Paul campaign doesn't make Ron Paul a neo-Nazi. The neo-Nazis believe very strongly in Jesus Christ. Does this make Jesus a neo-Nazi? I think not.
|| Posted by TruthAndReason, November 4, 2007 08:57 PM ||
You'll notice that I never accused Ron paul of being a neo-Nazi, because i know that he isn't. I instead noted that he is taking money from such folks for his campaign.
But since you raised the question, let's put the question to you: Would Jesus keep campaign donations from a neo-Nazi?
What does it matter where money cames from, Little old ladies, Nazis or if it falls out of the sky. Money is money, it all spends the same.
With this mosey Ron Paul can buy media publicity, and get his message out, which you admit is not a Pro-Nazi nor even a Nazi-friendly message.
You say they are criminals, but if that was the case the funds would be wired in from jail cells, to say other wise is to assume guilt without a fair trial, which is unconstitutional.
So long as Nazi are not actively breaking the Law, the constitutions says we must grant them the liberty to stomp around in jackboots and make absurd racial proclamations, they may even Hitler Solute each other and anyone else they feel like.
That is what freedom and liberty means.
If these Neo-Nazis where breaking the law, then Ron Paul would have every reason to turn them in to the police and hand the money over as evidence. However, there is no crime is expressing ones liberty to donate money to any individual or organization one chooses.
If a Nazi organization gives a huge check to the Salvation army, should they use that money to feed the poor, or give it back to the Nazi, who will use it to buy svastikas, and I don't know ropes to lynch minorities, or torches to burn down black churches.
Personally, I think the money is in better hands with Ron Paul, and it would be irresponsible of him to put money back into the hands of racists.
|| Posted by Clocktower, November 15, 2007 01:35 AM ||
Well, Clocktower, thanks for the canned response that in no way responds to what i wrote.
1) I nowhere say that Nazis are criminals.
2) I nowhere say that Ron paul is not pro-Nazi or Nazi-friendly.
3) I nowhere say that they don't have the right to engage in their disgusting displays of ignorance and racism.
4) While Nazis have the right to participate in politics, no candidate is required to accept their money. Ron Paul could choose not to associate with known neo-Nazis. That he chooses to do so calls into question his ethics and morality -- if he has any.
5) I do say that Ron Paul is the candidate of freaks and weirdos, and proves this by courting their support and accepting their money. Your arguments are one more example of the truth of that asertion.
Explain how exactly, allowing someone to give you money over the internet is the same as associating with them. Its not like he went out of his way to appeal to Nazis, or that he takes there money as a bribe to support Nazi-agendas in congress or as president.
you fail to address that every dollar a nazi gives to Ron Paul, is one less dollar they can use to support acts of hate.
I admitted that you agreed that Paul is not pro-Nazi. My question is what is wrong with taking money from Nazis, that they would use for evil, and turning that money into good use?
Rather like the old justification for dealing with evil spirits, that the magician is forcing the demons of hell to perform the righteous works of heaven. Transmuting evil into good. (Lead into GOLD)
Are you an inquisitionist who fears Paul is engaging in dibolatry or alchemy, which is a threat to the magical authority of your chosen Pope (candidate)?
You tell me what is weird about people keeping their own money, using it as they want to, learning to support themselves rather than rely on welfare.
What is weird about the ideal that if we stay out of other nations internal affairs (regardless of the potential benefit to us) they will respect us enough to stay out of ours. That forming trade inter-dependence will keep nations people from attacking us because af the mutual benefit.
What is crazy about tying money down to a solid defined value, rather that supporting run away inflation that maken prices raise, then minimum wage goes up, then prices raise again, each time minimum wage goes up, it is less than before and the only makes a difference for about a year before price goes up. Many businesses cant keep giving raises and go under. people lose jobs and get welfare + social security, thin makes more inflation.
Some one has to put an end to it, maybe not Ron Paul, but he is all we have an this time.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 15, 2007 11:23 AM ||
I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but I don't agree with or associate with racists and/or white supremacists.
And Ron Paul doesn't either.
You say "Ron Paul could choose not to associate with known neo-Nazis. That he chooses to do so calls into question his ethics and morality -- if he has any." He's not associating with neo-Nazis. The only reason you view it that way is because you don't like Ron Paul. He doesn't go to dinner with neo-Nazi's. He doesn't go to fund raisers of theirs. He doesn't go to their parties or celebrate holidays with them.
You also say "I do say that Ron Paul is the candidate of freaks and weirdos, and proves this by courting their support and accepting their money." This is the canned response by people that dislike Ron Paul, big deal. It's old, and it's just using the liberal trick of name calling when you don't have anything intelligent to say. If you want to debate his politics then debate them. But when you use name calling as a tactic against someone you disagree with you just sound like a little brat that isn't getting his way.
You're using the fact that Ron Paul has accepted donations from them that he therefore supports everything they stand for, which is untrue. Or maybe you think due to their donations that he's going to do things for them or something...which again is untrue.
It really doesn't matter how much people against Ron Paul bring up things like this, we believe in HIS message. We don't believe in the message of his donors.
It's the same for the supporters of every other candidate out there. You can bring up negative things about Hillary Clinton for example, but no matter what it is Clinton supporters will still be Clinton supporters.
So keep up the "against Ron Paul" campaign, because it doesn't matter. His supporters are for smaller government, the end of the welfare state, protection of our borders, adherence to the Constitution, and liberty...no matter who donates money to his campaign.
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 16, 2007 07:07 AM ||
"Would Jesus keep campaign donations from a neo-Nazi?"
So now you're acting as though you know what Jesus would do?
You have no idea what Jesus would do. No one does. That question is irrelevant and ridiculous.
I could say "Yes, he'd keep the money and give it to the poor".
You could say "No, he'd never keep the money! He'd throw it in their faces and damn them to hell!"
Who's right? No one knows.
If you disagree with Ron Paul's politics, let's hear it. What do you disagree with and why?
Most Ron Paul Paranoids like yourself don't debate the issues honestly, you simply call him and his supporters names because you disagree with his political philosophy.
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 16, 2007 07:15 AM ||
Also, there's a good response by the Lone Star Times, one of the many publications that raised this issue. They actually spoke with someone from the Ron Paul campaign about the support of these neo-nazi groups.
I won't go into detail, you can read the article here:
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/30/rpb2/
One thing I want to point out is something said by the Ron Paul campaign in regards to Don Black, the leader of a racist group that donated $500 to his campaign:
"Until three days ago, neither Dr. Paul nor anyone else in the campaign had any idea who Don Black was or is. We’ve never met or communicated with him. We did not solicit his support.
It is certainly unfortunate that the campaign’s donation banner is on his site. We’re not rushing to spend a lot of time reading what’s over there, but what you’ve described is certainly repugnant, and completely anathema to everything Dr. Paul stands for."
That's right...they said it's "certainly repugnant, and completely anathema to everything Dr. Paul stands for"
I know some people, however, will never forgive him unless he performs some action (gives the money back, gives it to charity, openly declares he's not a supporter of them, etc). Others will just never forgive him and continue to bash him because they don't like him, but that's expected from the Ron Paul Paranoid group.
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 16, 2007 07:41 AM ||
There is still the unaddressed point that if he were to give the money back to the Nazis it would be no different than if he wrote them a check of his awn and handed it to a Nazi support charity. Either way, its putting money into the hands of Nazis. It doesn't matter if you give Nazis new money, or give them back their own money which they had written off as an expense, they still have money to spend on something evil, that they did not have before.
If Hitler gave me a million dollars I would keep it, if a homeless old woman gave me her last dime, I would give it back. Thats ethics as I see it, take money from evil people, give it to good people who need it.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 16, 2007 11:04 AM ||
As noted at LoneStarTimes.com in the original article, the best choice Ron Paul could make is to give it to a Jewish charity.
At this point, though, Ron Paul can just keep the cash as far as i am concern. he has shown himself to be a man with no moral values or standards -- as have his followers here.
Once the specific $500 left Nazi hands and entered the collective funds of Ron Paul, It lost all association with Nazis, its just money now.
If 300 people each give me a dollar, the history of each dollar is voided, its now just a collective $300, not $300 individual dollar bills with different histories.
If Ron Paul was to give the $500 to a jewish charity, how do we know that those are the exact same dollar bills the Nazis gave him and not some other dollars that came from an honest reputable American.
Is it right to give an honest mans dollars to a charity he does not want to support, just to strike some kind of symbolic gesture to some other dishonest Nazi, that are in no way related to the honest man?
I say any money Ron Paul gets for his campaign is to be used for his campaign, so that he can win the election, and show his anti-Nazi merit in the white house.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 16, 2007 08:14 PM ||
No, Nazi-lovin' Ron Paul can keep his corrupt cash as he goose-steps into oblivion.
After all, he will lose the nomination -- and his House seat.
well being a Nazi is not a crime in America, and that means no matter your personal feelings, you treat Nazis just like anyone else.
That is what America means, it mean love and respect for people even if you don't like what they stand for of choose to do with their time. Fine Nazis hate people, as such they are bad Americans. America does not just mean that legally and politically we allow freedom, it means personally on an individual level we tolerate any behavior up until it breaks the law, that is it causes a direct threat or use of force backed coercion on a specific person.
America is a mentality of the people to accept even blatant anti-liberty attitudes and behaviors from others. As to hate the haters is only more hatred and that is just as unAmerican as to hate in the first place.
By reaching the hand of friendship and mutual brotherhood even to Nazis, Criminals, rapists, Drug dealers, and such ilk, we can offset the pain, fear and humiliation that fuels their misanthropic hatred of some or all of their fellow human beings.
By throwing money back in their faces you only serve to reinforce their belief that they are hated outsiders, who are special and can only gain acceptances by killing their oppressors, or justifiably exploiting other human being.
But when we offer unconditional respect a funny thing happens these Nazis begin to feel like they belong, like others care about them. They begin to feel connected to humanity, they gain self respect, and little by little they learn to respect others. They learn to trust others, even other races, and to give up rationalizing their fear and distrust with racist words. The become ashamed of their shaved heads and svastika tatoos, and like Alex at the end of A Clockwork Orange (Brittish version) they repent their anti-social ways.
And all because people were nice to them, despite their attempts to alienate themselves, with displeasing opinions and behaviors to push others away.
Its called Psychology, read about it
|| Posted by clocktower, November 17, 2007 01:13 AM ||
And that is where you are wrong, clocktower.
While Nazis are not criminals in this country, decent people do not 'treat[them] just like anyone else."
Decent human beings disassociate themselves from them and shun them as unfit companions and supporters.
They refuse to do business with them and do not take their money in trade or as contributions.
They show their abhorrence of their reprehensible ideas and philosophy at every turn -- just as they do with Communists and others who hold to the murderous agenda that the twin evils of the twentieth century attempted to bring about.
That Nazis are just fine with you shows the degree of your moral failings -- and that Ron Paul gladly takes Nazi cash shows he is not a man of right principles.
Right morals is to love your enemy, its in the bible, read your bible!
|| Posted by clocktower, November 17, 2007 08:55 AM ||
So now I have a RonPauLunatic here who wants to impose biblical morality on us? Seems to me that is quite a contrast from the message of freedom you clowns tell us you are for.
And by the way -- the Bible also tells us to treat those who are persistent in sin as unbelievers. I'd argue Nazism is a pretty big sin.
Just that the basic Premise Jesus worked under is has proven correct.
That is people do hurtful things because they are themselves hurt "spiritually" which is to say emotionally/psychologically.
Therefore we should seek to heal those who behave in such ways, not provoke them further by justifying their delusions of mistreatment.
Or rather making their delusions of mistreatment and inferiority into self fulfilled prophesies.
Their is nothing a Nazi type wants more than for you to hate him, to spit on him and curse him under your breath. Because this gives him reason to hate you, because he says to him self everyone is against me because I am special, me and by white brothers are elite agents of truth against Jewish lies.
If you throw money back into his face, he will take it as proof you are part of the Jew conspiracy, and then pat himself on the back for outing you as a Race Traitor or some such thing.
Thus all you would do is further his racist beliefs.
Do you think it is a good moral principle to encourage Racists in their racism? I should not think so.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 17, 2007 09:00 PM ||
Gee, clocktower, what a load of claptrap.
If you and Ron Paul want to stand with the Nazis and their wounded psyches, feel free to do so.
Me? I'll stand with the Jews, the blacks, and the other victims of Nazi racism. And if the Nazis claim I'm part of a Jewish conspiracy, I'll simply respond that I am instead a part of a conspiracy of the decent against the indecent.
Too bad you and Ron Paul can't say the same -- and it is good of you two to prove that you are willing to love the Nazis for fun and profit..
I guess you never heard of hate the behavior not the person.
You certainly don't understand Adler.
And you seem so concerned about ureal things like making moral points, over real things physical paper money which is not tainted with Nazi cooties or any such actual physical harm.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 18, 2007 02:17 AM ||
Ron Paul has received donations from racist scum neo-Nazis, therefore he must also be racist scum. Ron Paul also receives a lot of support from blacks, which mean he must be black. He is popular on the Web, therefore he must be Tim Berners-Lee. He is popular among students, therefore he must be a college student. Surely some of the people who have donated to his campaign have been homosexuals, homophobes, transvestites, saints, sinners, rich men, poor men, beggar men, and theives, so he must be each of those, as well.
The argument that Ron Paul is somehow defined by a small amount of money (which, by law can be no greater than $2300 per individual) donated to him semi-anonymously (considering the large number of individuals making donations to his campaign) is laughable. Should each candidate be required to run background checks for each check they receive? Is it acceptable to receive donations from felons? From people with bad hygiene? From Scientologists? Bad actors? And whose donations *can* a candidate accept?
Ron Paul received one or more small (compared to a total of $4.3 million) donations from whom he neither knew nor cared to know. All he needed to know was that some anonymous person donated some money to his campaign. Of course he accepted it. To say he should have done otherwise exhibits questionable reasoning skills and a disturbingly skewed view of ethics and morality.
Are you so sure that this site has not received funds from neo-Nazis? How do you know that a neo-Nazi didn't check out this article and click on one of your ads, generating advertising revenue for you from the click? You'd better start backtracing your IP logs so you can know what fraction of a penny you need to donate to charity! Hurry, before you become a skinhead!
|| Posted by webguy, November 18, 2007 05:08 AM ||
Guys, knock yourself out hangin' with the Nazis.
Moral people disassociate themselves from such scum.
That you don't indicates that you are severely lacking in moral values.
No doubt you would celebrate a donation from bin Laden. Oh, that's right, you folks don't think he was behind 9/11.
how does keeping money that a terrorist gives me hurt anyone?
If no one gets hurt, who doesn't want to get hurt, there is nothing immoral.
Taking money from a criminal, is not a criminal act.
If you petition the criminal to steal for you, then accepting that money is being an accomplice.
What should we do, burn any money that has ever touched a Nazi's hands because its got cooties now?
What if I run a grocery store, should I refuse to allow Nazi's to buy bread, on the grounds that I best not touch their poisoned money?
Sure if everyone stopped taking money from known Nazi's that would make it hard for them to keep being Nazi's, but they are not defined as criminals so their is no legal reason to starve and alienate them. In fact refusal to do business with them is probably a crime, Ironically it would be discrimination.
Even if not a crime, it would put them on welfare to the state, and your taxes would go to by them groceries.
Is that what you want?
Either accept money from Nazi's or else the government mafia will steal your tax dollars to buy bread for Nazi's.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 19, 2007 10:45 AM ||
No, what I want is no welfare state -- and for folks to so marginalize the Nazis that they starve in the streets.
This is America and everyone has a right to live his life as he feels fit, even the liberty to be a complete bastard if he wants, and face no persecution for it.
That is the whole point of America, its a place where freaks, misfits, the eccentric, the puritanical, loons, goons, and bastards can come to be free of social oppression and ridicule.
In America, Nazis are welcome to express their views and be as they want, so long as they dont hurt anyone else. If they want to have a privite Whites only plot of land and teach racist doctrines and instill fear and hatred, they are free to do so. So long as they legally abtain the land, and demonstrate peacefully, they are welcome in America, the land where all misfits co-exist in peace.
It is only if a specific individual performs an act of harm or use of coercive force against another individual, that the government exists to step in and keep the peace.
America is a land of individuals, you are not accused by affiliation with groups. Only Individual acts are judged.
An American is an individual human being first and foremost, and is not ever required to be a patriot of the Government. The Government protects the rights even and I would say especially, of those who would criticize the Governments actions that seek it empower itself rather that protect the absolute liberty of the individual.
America is not an ideal delegated to the government, it mush burn in the hearts of ever man, woman, and child. That Ideal is not obedience to the government, it is not love of the nation. It is the ideal of Absolute total liberty of each individual beholden to no group or authority, but FREE in his own right, which is not granted by power or authority but is an inherent liberty.
This liberty is a mutual liberty that one keeps for oneself only by granting it to others. The instant you persecute a NAZI, you give up a piece of your own liberty.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 19, 2007 08:03 PM ||
They are legally welcome to express their views -- and I am legally permitted to express my abhorrance for them. That includes refusing to associate with them in any manner -- personal, political, religious, and economic.
Furthermore, that means that I am free to attempt to persuade others to do the same.
Unless, of course, you are proposing that ONLY Nazis have rights in your warped version of America.
"and that Ron Paul gladly takes Nazi cash shows he is not a man of right principles."
Ron Paul doesn't GLADY TAKE NAZI CASH. His people have said as much. They can't screen all of their donors other than to make sure they're not illegal contributions (unlike Hillary). It would take too much time and effort to do that. And his campaign has said they don't support the Nazi agenda at all.
You're a fool, Rhymes. A complete fool. If Ron Paul can use the money for good purposes then more power to him. You think he supports Nazi philosophy just because they donated to his campaign? If you do then you're a loon and you need mental therapy.
You're just saying the same things over and over thinking if you say it enough times it's going to come true.
You probably didn't like Ron Paul before this news came about anyways, and you'd probably be trash talking him no matter who donated money to his cause. You're pathetic.
And this argument that anyone that supports Ron Paul is a Nazi loving hate monger is hilarious! Sure, we're all a bunch of psychos for following Ron Paul. Keep it coming Rhymes, you're making a lot of us laugh!
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 20, 2007 11:53 AM ||
The economic system is open and free for anyone to participate in it, and by all means we should take it that only dollars participate in it, tho oricin of those dollars in no ones business.
If I am selling a car, the law says that I have to sell it to whoever can pay the price I ask, I can not refuse to sel it based on my opinion of the buyer. A racist can not refuse to do business with a black man, I can't refuse to sell my car to a man who plans to smash it up in a demo derby, and you can't just refuse the sale on the grounds that the buyer is a Nazi.
And donating to a campaign is a sale, the trade is money for policy, in the case of Nazis they probably donate to Paul because they believe the Federal reserve is run by Jews, and they hate that their taxes go to minorities on welfare.
Thus they support Paul's policy, for the wrong reasons, but support it none the less.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 20, 2007 12:27 PM ||
Clocktower you've made many great points that are very logical to an open minded person.
The problem is no matter how much sense you make, no matter how politely you pose your arguments, people such as Rhymes with Right doesn't care. They will continue to bash those that disagree with them and will not acknowledge any points you make.
Rhymes with Right has pretty much ignored the good points others have made and keeps saying the same Ron Paul bashing arguments.
For example, webguy's comments above are very logically made but Rhymes doesn't even discuss them. Many points you made were completely ignored, not addressed at all. Why? Because he knows he can't actually argue with anyone that makes sense when they disagree with him, so he resorts to his childish name calling.
Sean Hannity and Michael Medved use the same tactics to try and make it seem as though they're still ahead of the game no matter what good points are made for the opposing side.
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 20, 2007 03:32 PM ||
yes, he probably wants to claim I am a liberal also. Which I guess he things liberal means anyone who doesn,t think we can end violence by proving ourselves the biggest dog on the block. Or does not believe that anyone is morally justified in claiming authority to control, regulate, or otherwise shape policy.
Funny, I always thought I was more like a Right-wing anarchist, if anything.
Actually I like to think myself a Thelemite.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 20, 2007 04:03 PM ||
Dave -- If Ron Paul does not gladly take Nazi cash, all he would have to do is return the $500 to the guy who runs Stormfront. That he does not puts the lie to any denial by his campaign.
And clocktower -- unless there were a violation of civil rights law, I don't have to sell my car to anyone. For that matter, if I own a business I can run someone off and ban them from the premises if I dislike them, as long as it was not for a prohibited reason under civil rights law.
And I don't think you guys are liberals -- I think you are Nazi-lovin' pussies.
And guys, the reason I don't get into the "good use" argument is that it is irrelevant. The source of the cash itself is the problem, not the great purpose it will be used for.
If the source of the money is tainted, it does not matter what you do with it. Just as a pro-chastity group does not take money from teh local pimp, a pro-liberty candidate should not be taking money from a Nazi.
"Dave -- If Ron Paul does not gladly take Nazi cash, all he would have to do is return the $500 to the guy who runs Stormfront. That he does not puts the lie to any denial by his campaign."
Wrong again Rhymes, which isn't surprising since most of your arguments are idiotic. Your opinion is Ron Paul gladly takes Nazi cash since he hasn't done something YOU think is right with the donation.
He didn't request money from anyone in particular, especially Nazi type people. You keep ignoring that issue altogether.
Also, in your twisted mind of illogical thoughts, if Ron Paul ends up giving the money back would it even change your mind on this issue? No, I thought not. You're just a bag of hot air.
"And I don't think you guys are liberals -- I think you are Nazi-lovin' pussies."
You're hilarious! Keep 'em coming Rhymes. You keep showing what a complete ass you are. If we disagree with you on this issue we must be "Nazi-lovin' pussies". That is a perfectly logical argument. You got us there. You win!
|| Posted by Liberty Dave, November 21, 2007 06:27 AM ||
No, I will retract my comments about Ron Paul and the Nazi connection if he refunds the money to Stormfront's owner or donates it to a legitimate charity, demands that links to his campaign website be removed from Stormfront's website, and in the future return other extremist cash he has received. I still won't support Ron Paul, but it would prove he is walking the walk not just talking the talk about rejecting such extremists -- sort of like he does so-called special interest money.
And given your defense of Nazis and their right to have their money accepted by poor, defenseless (principleless is more like it) Ron Paul, I stand by my statement that you are Nazi-lovin' pussies. The ONLY folks you seem to think have rights in any of this are the Nazis.
If the Nazis gave Ron Paul that money in hopes that he would use it to get rid of the Federal Reserve system, and that is what Ron Paul plans to do with the money he gets for his campaign. Then why should he give back legitimate contributions to the cause he is trying to achieve?
Just because a guy is a Nazi, does that mean everything he does is evil? If a Nazi dropped in a dollar to a charity to help cure Cancer, should that Charity dig through every jar they but aut and return all Nazi dollars?
On what grounds, can a Nazi dollar not help fight cancer the way a someone else's dollar can?
Must we assume that the Nazi didn't really want to cure cancel because he is evil and wants people to die of cancer?
Of I know it means the Cancer Charity is a fraud that really supports only supports white power, because Nazis are evil tight wads who only give money to hate organizations.
It can not possibly be the case that a cure for cancer is a mutually shared goal that both Nazis and minorities have in common.
I mean their is no way that Ron Paul and Nazis could have a shared goal, unless that goal is hate oriented, right?
|| Posted by clocktower, November 21, 2007 03:01 PM ||
Ron Paul is not the cure for cancer, noris he a charity.
Ron Paul is a political candidate, who can and should be judged by those with whom he associates by taking their money.
Ron Paul takes Nazi cash -- ergo anything he has to say is irrelevant because of the taint of taking that cash.
Ron Paul is a candidate who accepts donations from people who like what he wants to do as president. Some people want out of the war, so they give him money, some people what to end medicare so they donate money, some people don't like the Federal Reserve. Some people just want to get publicity for supporting an underdog.
The Nazi contribution is no different, they support something in his platform, whatever it is, its their money to use as they please. Its not up to Ron Paul to figure out or to care where his money comes from or what the motive for the donation might be.
All he needs do in take the money and use it to win. If the Mafia donates millions of dollars, then he can use that to win, so what if they got the money illegally from extortion. Ron Paul has it now, and once president he can deal with putting an end to extortion. Giving it back doesn't help stop the Mafia.
How does giving maney back to racists end racism? it doesn't but a Ron Paul presidency will!
|| Posted by clocktower, November 21, 2007 04:22 PM ||
Its not up to Ron Paul to figure out or to care where his money comes from
Gee -- that sounds just like a line out of the Hillary Clinton playbook.
Face it -- Ron Paul has no moral scruples against knowingly taking money from Nazis and other racist scum. What's more, he, his campaign, and his supporters all argue that taking money from Nazis and other racists is just fine.
In the end, we can only draw the conclusion that you folks like being associated with Nazis because you like some of their ideas.
The one thing you folks don't like is being judged by the company you keep.
Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas -- lay down with Nazis, get up with swastikas.
If both Ron Paul and the Nazis want to get rid of the Fed, then why should he not accept their money.
I mean the other candidates take money from the religious right, even though I'm sure none of them want to support the Fowell-Robertson agenda, that would make the US a theocracy.
Maybe when they denounce Pat Robertson, Paul will give back the funds.
Notice I never said they should give back the money, just denounce his agenda.
|| Posted by clocktower, November 21, 2007 05:34 PM ||
1) There is no agenda for theocracy in this country. One more lie from the RonPauLunatics!
2) That you can't tell the difference between Pat Robertson and Hitler tells me a lot about you and your candidate.
Oh, and clocktower -- since you seem to be from the Belleville are, might I suggest you go have a pizza and a beer at D.S. Vespers? It is one of the many things I miss from my old stomping grounds -- perhaps the thing I most miss.
Look rhymes with right, nobody but you is buying into your bullshit and asinine logic, so stfu and have a good day. Look if you want to vote for a pro big government candidate thats you own business, but some people dont buy into your bullshit pro welfare state. Anybody who disagrees with you is a nazi loving pussy?, sounds like your the real nazi to me. But when you cant debate ron paul on the issues I guess smear is the only option. have fun voting for flip flopper romney or giuliana. they will say anything to get your vote, that should be right up your alley.
No -- candidates who take money from Nazis and those who support their doing so are Nazi-loving pussies, Brian. Glad to see you fall into that category, as witnessed by your pro-liberty demand that I "stfu" because I espouse a position you disagree with. I suppose that if i don't, you and the rest of the RonPauLunatics will put on your best brown shirts and come beat me into submission, right?
Nope we will just vote ron paul into the whitehouse, and then shove the freedom and tax dollars youll save down your throat. But honestly who do you support?
And is it me or is it ironic a white supremacists last name is black? And let's be honest we know ron paul isnt racist, he probably didnt even know the money he was taking was from nazis, and it wasnt much at all. $500? he made 4.3 million in one day, his site probably gets a lot of donations . Im not gonna sit here and argue he shouldnt give it back, but dont sit there and argue he's a nazi if he doesnt. It was money from an individual who happens to be a nazi, not a nazi group. and alex jones donated? who gives a fuck? anybody can! I think a rapist or pedophile or murderer is worse than a nazi who doesnt break laws. If any bad person has ever donated to any cause, should it always be given back?
The only reason I could see somebody getting mad over this, is you say "well ron paul took money from nazis so maybe the nazis were trying to buy him off to support their views." But we know he doesnt support their views and wouldnt for any amount of cash, ergo it doesnt matter. We know they donated because ron paul will speak against the fed, but for a different reason than nazis.
You say he should give it to a jewish charity, would a jewish charity accept nazi money?
Brian -- I don't argue that Ron Paul is a Nazi -- but he is either a Nazi-loving pussy or otherwise an individual of no character if he knowingly keeps the cash from such a source. You are judged in such a case by the company you keep.
And I suggest that such a charity would take the money, just as they have taken items looted by the Nazis when no rightful heir could be found. And indeed, such a donation would thoroughly repudiate the Nazi agenda in a way that the campaign keeping it.
As for who I support, I suggest you read my site and find out.
I think it's more that he believes in freedom so much, that he thinks anybody and everybody has a right to think whatever they want, no matter how batshit crazy it is, as long as they dont break the law. and you say you dont argue that he's a nazi? but he's a nazi lover? you know who loves nazis? only fucking nazis. This man has no character? He is the only politician whos not a complete bullshit flip flopper who would say and do anything to please you and get your vote.At least the only one running for president. He is a doctor who worked for $3 an hour at a charity hospital, delivering babies of any race or color. How many lives have u saved? He was a doc during viet nam and has devoted so much of his life to helping people, what the hell have u done? start a blog? but he has no character? This man has more character in his pinky than you or me have in our whole body. Have u read any of his writings, or heard him talk about race? To say he is a nazi sypathzer is to be blind to anything he's ever said.
Like you said alex jones donated, does it mean he thinks 9/11 was done by the government? no, no matter how many people like you to try to make it out like he does.~ So an individual who is a nazi donated, does it make him a nazi sypathyer>? no. I could see if it was a nazi group but it was an individual citizen whos racist, and as much as it might piss us off, they have the same right to donate or not donate to ron paul as anyone. And it's really not fair to take somebodys money for one reason, and give it to a cause they dont believe in at all.
Look I know you dont want ron paul to win, hence your for the status quo, but enough americans are sick of bullshit we cant vote for anybody but ron paul.
I know all about Ron Paul -- I live 2 miles from his congressional district.
And I'm sorry -- anyone who does not reject money from certain sources (Nazis, Kluxers, Islamists, and Communists) has no character. In this case, Ron Paul has put cash (and such a piddling amount of cash) before decency and principle. As such, he is unfit for any office -- and i am working to make sure he has no office 13 months from now, in any branch of government.
We must live close together then. Myabe it's that his principles are in fact too strong, because nazis have the right to hate anybody. But since you know all about ron paul, but call him a nazi sympathizer you're obviously just a delusional liar, but that's your right, and you can hate ron paul as much as you want, but he is far and away better than any of those political hacks he's on stage with. I dont defend nazi views, i defend their right to have any view they want.
heres pauls stance on racism, not exactly a nazis wet dream.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/racism/
Racism
A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.
The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism.
Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.
It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
He's so supportive of the right of people to think what they want that he doesn't support his own right to disassociate himself from those whose malign ideologies include explicit calls for genocide? I don't think so.
First of all, if you were a Neo-Nazi, which candidate would you endorse? Neo-Nazis, militia crazies, and the KKK are generally anti-government. They hear Ron Paul being the only candidate openly expressing anti-government views, so of course they endorse him. It makes perfect sense. Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber would probably be strong Ron Paul supporters.
The important point is, should this reflect badly on Ron Paul?
Well, consider this:
Many Neo-Nazi and KKK members strongly claim to endorse Jesus as their spiritual guide. So have many criminals, murderers, and child molesters.
Does this reflect badly on Jesus by association? Does this fact bring into question Jesus' teachings, character, integrity, or values?
Of course not.
Guilt by association is a logical fallacy.
What if it is a great thing that Ron Paul's campaign is draining extremist group's funds of cash that would be otherwise used to hurt others? I hope he is successful in bankrupting the KKK and Neo-Nazis by this most devious method!
In other words, why should they return the cash, rather than keep it, and put it towards efforts to enforce human rights and further the cause of freedom from race or religion-based oppression? Wouldn't the money be better put to use in this way?
|| Posted by A Reader, December 3, 2007 03:16 AM ||
Hence my suggestion that he give the money where it will do exactly that, eliminating the taint of taking their cash while devoting it to a positive cause antithetical to theirs.
What's ridiculous is that Ron Paul has raised so much moolah. I didn't know Nazis had so much money. It's not helping in the polls, however. He's stuck at 5%.
|| Posted by Damail, December 18, 2007 08:34 PM ||
That is the absurdity of his refusal to return the tainted cash -- he clearly doesn't need it.
Ron Paul has recieved millions in small donations from European-Americans who don't care whether or not Usurael gets "wiped of the map", or whether or not we are a "diverse nation".
Neither "diversity", nor allegiance to foriegn, especially non-Christian lands are Constitutional.
Thank you for demonstating the true nature of Ron Paul supporters, and the sort of people embraced by the candidate when he refuses to return this piddling little donation.
The Republican National Committee (RNC) enjoyed a more than $2 million fundraising edge over the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in September, continuing a year-long pattern. And although the Republican committee’s money margin over the Democratic committee is less than was typically the case before the GOP lost control of Congress in the 2006 elections, it remains the GOP’s brightest spot in a year in which the Democrats’ U.S. Senate and House campaign units have built up big fundraising leads of their Republican counterparts.
The RNC raised $5.8 million in September, according to its latest filing with the Federal Election Commission, compared to $3.7 million for the DNC. That continued an RNC winning streak that it has sustained through every month of this year.
Overall through Sept. 30, the RNC raised $63.1 million, and began October with $16.5 million in cash on hand. The DNC raised $40.5 million and began October with $3.3 million left to spend. The DNC has $2 million in debts, while the RNC is debt-free.
Could it be that we are seeing that the people are supportive of GOP principles, but less than happy with the direction taken by some GOP incumbents who are willing to compromise away all principles in an effort to win praise for their “bipartisanship”?
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David Crosby used to be a talented musician, before he burned out every last brain cell with all those drugs. And Congressman John Hall used to have a modicum of musical talent – not much, but enough to score a couple of light-weight pop hits along the way. But in his new position, should he really be having a fundraiser featuring Crosby, given the latter’s recent insult to the troops?
Rep. John Hall, D-Dover, is refusing to cancel a planned performance Sunday at a campaign fundraiser in Bedford by longtime friend and fellow musician David Crosby despite Crosby's recent statement that when a U.S. soldier arrives in Iraq "he finds out the job is killing somebody else's mother and sister."
Crosby appeared on the program "Hardball" last week, commenting to host Chris Matthews on young Americans volunteering to serve in Iraq.
"On the one hand, you have got a young kid who is patriotic, who loves his country, believes in it," Crosby said. "And he's being told, yes, this is the truth. And we have got to go in there to protect your mother and your sister."
Crosby added, "And he goes over and he finds out the job is killing somebody else's mother and sister."
Bad enough that he won’t dump the musical has-been from the fundraiser, but Hall also lacks the decency and integrity to defend our men and women in uniform by repudiating his friend and supporters slanderous comments. If you need any proof of how unfit John Hall is for office, that should do it for you.
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Remember when the Democrats had a guy stalk Senator George Allan, looking for some miscue to exploit until they found one poorly chosen word? Well, it looks like a conservative student in Michigan is doing the same thing, and the Democrats – and the educrats he works for – don’t like it one bit.
A politically conservative student armed with a video camera and a Web site is trying to force a Democratic congressional candidate out of his teaching job at Central Michigan University.
Dennis Lennox, a 23-year-old junior, has posted videos on YouTube of himself questioning assistant professor Gary Peters about campaigning for office while holding a prestigious position at the university.
Some say Lennox is persistent. Others accuse him of pandering for attention.
"What I'm doing isn't about getting media attention," said Lennox, a political science major. "I'm speaking for the hundreds of students, alumni, taxpayers and even legislators who have complained because Gary Peters won't pick between Congress and campus."
One college administrator appears to have assaulted Lennox, and there are attempts to prevent him from filming on campus, or from filming public employees. I guess the First Amendment only applies to Democrats and liberals – and that they really don’t consider turnabout to be fair play.
Ileana Hernandez is seeking the office of county commissioner in Pike County, Pennsylvania.
Someone splattered a campaign sign with paint. Someone also dumped dirty diapers in front of her campaign office..
Her response?
Hernandez, a Democrat who is the first Latino woman to run for the office, said the vandalism "could be both racist and sexist — it's Pike County."
Her opponents have criticized the both acts of vandalism. But I can’t help but think that labeling the people you hope to represent as a bunch of racists and sexists is not the best pat to high political office – especially when your victories in previous elections in the county has proven that neither race nor sex has been an obstacle to your political success.
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In case yesterday’s post about Illinois Senator Dick Durbin didn’t make the point clear, this comment should. Disagreeing with him is not legitimate – indeed, it is a sign of not of principled disagreement, but of something much more ugly and unacceptable.
llegal immigration remains at a legislative impasse — and that may be a good thing for GOP chances since the party’s base in the South and West tends to be vehemently opposed to any accommodation with illegal immigrants.
In his post-vote assessment, the Dream Act’s chief sponsor, Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois said, “In a campaign year, it is a very difficult issue. If it’s tough this year, it’s tougher next year.”
Some senators, he said, “are running scared” on the illegal immigrant issue.
“Switchboards light up, the hates starts spewing, and people get concerned, to say the least,” Durbin told reporters.
Go that, people? Cacting your congressional representatives is not laudable participation by citizens in the political life of the Republic. It is, instead, an exercise in hatred – you know, one of those things the Democrats tell us must be criminalized. When you opposed this piece of Durbin-sponsored legislation because it made a mockery of our borders and amounted to nothing less than amnesty for entire families, you committed a hate crime.
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Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week Program Brings Out Pro-Islamic Fascists At Emory
Writer and activist David Horowitz was brought in to speak at Emory University by the College Republicans as part of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week. The response of those opposed to his message was not debate or discussion – instead, it was to resort to fascist tactics to silence the speech they oppose.
Protesters began their efforts as soon as Horowitz was introduced with boos and chants of "Heil Hitler." Despite the people who stood with their backs to Horowitz and the shouting of obscenities and other remarks from audience members, Horowitz attempted to deliver his speech that covered academic freedom and radical Islam. The loud chants, sign-waving, and disruptive gestures continued to escalate from audience members until the atmosphere was so chaotic that even the police present were unable to subdue the crowd. Horowitz was led off stage and left the campus under tight security, and the event came to an abrupt end.
Rather than remove those engaged in harassment and disruption under relevant disorderly conduct statutes and university regulations protecting academic freedom, the authorities removed the victim instead and silenced his message. You should have tazed them, bro!
Is academic freedom dead in America? Or is it available only to those with a politically correct message and the dictators they coddle?
Is it time for the federal government to begin investigating – and prosecuting – the repeated series of civil rights violations committed by Islamists, illegals, and Leftists against conservative Americans?
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They are so insane, they would at the same time say they support GLBT Rights! Amazing! Fight back against those that stone gays to death! Democracy NOT Theocracy!
STOP KUFFARPHOBIA Demonstration at Whitehall in London, 12pm Friday 10/26/07!
I think we all must start calling the Islamofascists 'racists'. We should scream that they are hateful towards the Christian race, and the Jewish race, and the Hindu race, and the Atheist Race, that they are Christianityphobiasts. They will scream that Christianity is not a race, and we'll say:
"See, Islam is NOT a race either.
And by the way, the Bible doesn't say to convert, conquer or kill non-Christians; like the Koran says to do to non-Muslims. So there YOU RACIST hater of non-Muslims! You're a Kuffarphobic!"
Be careful all you in London Friday 10/26!
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
don't call a spade a spade
Islamist terrorism
not related to Islam
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
you have NO rights
to hate religions
that demand to convert you
absurd thought -
God of the Universe calls
for sick ideologies
that deny human rights
KILL adulterers and gays
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
be very afraid...
of saying the wrong things
TRUTH is especially BAD
For a brief moment, I thought we were dealing with a rational liberal columnist.
Then I got to the fourth sentence.
Forget impeachment.
Liberals, put it behind you. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney shouldn't be treated like criminals who deserve punishment. They should be treated like psychotics who need treatment.
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Impeachment's not the solution to psychosis, no matter how flagrant. But despite their impressive foresight in other areas, the framers unaccountably neglected to include an involuntary civil commitment procedure in the Constitution.
Still, don't lose hope. By enlisting the aid of mental health professionals and the court system, Congress can act to remedy that constitutional oversight. The goal: Get Bush and Cheney committed to an appropriate inpatient facility, where they can get the treatment they so desperately need. In Washington, the appropriate statutory law is already in place: If a "court or jury finds that [a] person is mentally ill and . . . is likely to injure himself or other persons if allowed to remain at liberty, the court may order his hospitalization."
I'll even serve on the jury. When it comes to averting World War III, it's really the least I can do.
And it leads me to conclude that Bush Derangement Syndrome is not a mental illness, but is instead a manifestation of the evil that lives in some people's souls.
Looking for a job in government, one with real policy influence? Are you experienced and competent, and willing to think outside the box? Then Bobby Jindal wants you!
BATON ROUGE, La. — Gov.-elect Bobby Jindal is taking resumes from people looking for jobs at a new Web site, Louisiana Transition
"We are considering every position within the administration an open one and encouraging everyone interested to apply. We are looking for the best and brightest folks out there interested in working to bring our state a fresh start," Timmy Teepell, director of Jindal's transition team and chief of staff when Jindal takes office in January, said in a statement.
The transition team will form committees to choose the Jindal administration's cabinet members, according to Rolfe McCollister, chairman of the transition efforts.
Jindal will have a month longer than most incoming governors to handle transition because he won in Saturday's primary, not a November runoff.
Louisiana government has been a mes for years, and that was quite clearly demonstrated two years ago. If you want to be a part of the reform movement, click the link above and apply to be a part of the solution.
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I've not written much about the California wildfires, but I've certainly been praying about them -- I've got family in the area, and have been sent some really chilling pictures of fires on hillsides.
I have, however, gotten into more than one argument over why the evacuation and housing of those displaced is different.
Some will be tempted to attribute the quick action exclusively to race. After all, San Diego County, where most of the more than 800,000 wildfire evacuees live, is predominantly white (66 percent) and well-to-do (9 percent poverty rate) compared to the mostly African American (67 percent) and poor (28 percent poverty rate) victims of New Orleans. But that would be simplistic.
Because of well-organized disaster preparedness planning at the state and regional levels and drills that are continually performed, California is considered the gold standard of emergency response. After devastating fires in 2003, San Diego County invested in the automated reverse 911 system, which this week urged San Diego County residents to evacuate. And Californians have something that Louisianans, in particular those in New Orleans, didn't have when they needed it most: leadership, in this case from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the San Diego mayor on down. That there have been just five fatalities in an inferno that has burned an area twice the size of New York City shows what can result from clear and coordinated leadership.
These fires are regularly occurring events. They have plans to deal with them, and are not afraid to implement them. And everybody does communicate. Race, ethnicity, and socio-economic status are not even a factor in this equation.
And besides -- do those who want to argue that the response to Katrina was incompetent insist that every disaster get the same sort of response? Or would they prefer that we as a nation have learned from the mistakes of 2005?
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Do you really want that email read by just anyone? After all, it can happen, either through your mistake or the forwarding habits of others.
First, let’s make one thing clear. Does the local superintendent of schools want to kill any of her teachers? No, she does not.
In fact, for the most part, residents seem relatively pleased with the performance of the Catskill schools superintendent, Kathleen P. Farrell, who in less than three years has gained a reputation as a can-do presence in a tough job.
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Back and forth the discussion went, until Oct. 3, when Dr. Farrell wrote an e-mail message to the district’s director of facilities, John Willabay. She vented a bit and then allowed: “Please go KILL these people....Please, please, please.”
Then she sent it — not just to him — but, accidentally, to an unknown number of others as well, including Terri Dubuke, a sixth-grade teacher who was one of the critics. Ms. Dubuke read it in shock and referred it to the teachers’ union, and the matter was discussed at a closed-door school board meeting on Oct. 17.
It is stuff like this that causes our principal to caution us regularly at faculty meetings about being too quick to respond in anger or with a sarcastic tone.
But my question is this -- why does Farrell still have her job? After all, the head of the district union points out the disparity in treatment.
“If a student had written that, we would have been under lockdown and the student would have been escorted from the building,” she said. “Same thing if it had been a teacher. But when you have the person doing the policing writing it, none of that happens.”
Not only would a student or teacher have been escorted from the building, it is quite likely that a kid would have been expelled or a teacher fired. After all, we must have zero tolerance for threats of violence, even silly, blowing off steam type of threats that are not threats at all. Otherwise the little sociopath in third period could claim discrimination when his "People to slay" list is found along with detailed plans on how to assault the school.
Shouldn't the rules apply to everyone? And if not, doesn't that show the silliness of the zero tolerance rule?
It appears that they may have found the seal of one of the most infamous women of the Bible.
An ancient seal that surfaced in Israel more than four decades ago belonged to the biblical Queen Jezebel, according to a new study released on Tuesday by a Dutch university.
The seal, which some scholars date to the ninth century BCE, was first discovered in 1964 by the Israeli archeologist Nahman Avigad, with the name "Yzbl" inscribed in ancient Hebrew, Utrecht University said.
Although it was initially assumed that the seal belonged to Jezebel, the powerful and reviled Phoenician wife of the Jewish King Ahab, there was uncertainty regarding the original owner both because the spelling of the name was erroneous, and because the personal seal could easily have belonged to another woman of the same name.
Moreover, the unknown origin of the seal, which was not found in an official excavation but purchased on the antiquities market in Israel, has left Israeli archeologists uncertain of its ownership for the last 40 years.
But the study by Utrecht University Old Testament scholar and Protestant minister Dr. Marjo Korpel, 48, concludes that the seal must have belonged to Jezebel, based on the symbols that appear on it.
Will it ever be possible to authenticate the seal with 100% certainty? No, it won’t – but once again, we have archaeological evidence that seems to corroborate the existence of biblical figures. And while that doesn’t “prove” that the Bible is 100% accurate, it does show that it contains at least some elements of historical truth not available elsewhere.
Does this signal that China will have men on the moon before the US returns there?
China has launched its first lunar orbiter, on a planned year-long exploration mission to the Moon.
The satellite, named Chang'e 1, took off from the Xichang Centre in south-west China's Sichuan province at 1800 local time (1000 GMT).
Analysts say it is a key step towards China's aim of putting a man on the Moon by 2020, in the latest stage of an Asian space race with Japan and India
Earlier this month, a Japanese lunar probe entered orbit around the Moon.
India is planning a lunar mission for April next year.
NASA says it is on path to a 2020 return to the Moon – but we have spent the last couple of decades concerned with the Space Shuttle and not manned exploration beyond earth orbit. And after the Moon comes Mars – will the Red Planet see a Red Chinese flag before the arrival of the Red, White and Blue? And what of the other spacefaring nations – India and Japan? Are they interested in manned programs or not?
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Too bad – I might have considered breaking my pledge not to vote for John McCain if he had.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain told workers of small weapons factory that he not only wants to catch Osama Bin Laden if elected, but said he "will shoot him with your products".
"I will follow Osama Bin Laden to the gates of hell and I will shoot him with your products," McCain said.
You know, I like the image of an American president personally dispatching the archfiend of al-Qaeda to Hell with an American-made weapon. Heck, I’d vote for Hillary if she would make that commitment. Especially if she promised to do it live on national television.
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You should take a look at the Wounded Warriors Project. It raises awareness for severely wounded combat U.S. combat veterans in Iraq and Afghanistan. It really puts a face on the cost of this war. Here's a link:
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