March 29, 2010

Attack On Christianity At Trinity University

When one attends a school with a Christian heritage, a connection to a Christian denomination, and an obviously Christian name, should one be surprised – or offended – by a reference to Jesus Christ on one’s diploma? And should ">one expect that the reference be deleted from every student’s diploma because a minority of students take offense at it?

One would think that the answers to such questions would be obvious. Indeed, one would think that the need to even ask the questions is laughable. But that is not the case at San Antonio’s Trinity University.

A group of students at Trinity University is lobbying trustees to drop a reference to “Our Lord” on their diplomas, arguing it does not respect the diversity of religions on campus.

“A diploma is a very personal item, and people want to proudly display it in their offices and homes,” said Sidra Qureshi, president of Trinity Diversity Connection. “By having the phrase ‘In the Year of Our Lord,' it is directly referencing Jesus Christ, and not everyone believes in Jesus Christ.”

Qureshi, who is Muslim, has led the charge to tweak the wording, winning support from student government and a campus commencement committee. Trustees are expected to consider the students' request at a May board meeting.

Frankly, it seems to me that the PC ideology has been taken way too far here. Respect for diversity is one thing – but respect for the history of the institution and the religious affiliation it still retains is also important.


What next – excising the Bible from the school seal, on the theory that not every student is a believer in that divinely inspired book? Or at least the removal of the motto – E Tribus Unum (From Three, One)? Indeed, can this sort of PC lunacy even allow for maintaining the name “Trinity”? After all, there are no doubt all sorts of non-trinitarian folks on the campus who should not find themselves daily confronted with that theological negation of their own beliefs.

So to the trustees of Trinity University, I offer this piece of advice – keep “In the Year of Our Lord”, or accept that you will have no basis upon which to maintain any aspect of your school’s Christian heritage. After all, dropping that phrase will constitute nothing less than an abject surrender to the forces of anti-Christian diversity and secularism.

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Over the weekend I listened to and re-read Ezra Taft Benson's "The Proper Role of Government". I highly recommend you take the opportunity to obtain this for your files if you don't have it already.

In that talk he had a few lines which apply to this topic regarding the separation of church and state. The idea that diversity requires those of faith to back down is without merit.

"I support the doctrine of separation of church and state as traditionally interpreted to prohibit the establishment of an official national religion. But I am opposed to the doctrine of separation of church and state as currently interpreted to divorce government from any formal recognition of God. The current trend strikes a potentially fatal blow at the concept of the divine origin of our rights, and unlocks the door for an easy entry of future tyranny. If Americans should ever come to believe that their rights and freedoms are instituted among men by politicians and bureaucrats, then they will no longer carry the proud inheritance of their forefathers, but will grovel before their masters seeking favors and dispensations – a throwback to the Feudal System of the Dark Ages. We must ever keep in mind the inspired words of Thomas Jefferson, as found in the Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."'

|| Posted by T F Stern, March 29, 2010 07:53 PM ||

Well, Thomas, you once again lead me to reaffirm that which I have said to many Mormon friends over the years -- I may be unable to reconcile myself to certain elements of Mormon theology, its scriptures, and its claims about pre-Columbian history but I will gladly affirm that there is much wisdom to be found in many of the teachings of its leaders and therefore hold them in high esteem.

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 29, 2010 08:16 PM ||

I'll support this just as soon as someone can graduate from an Islamic University in Saudi Arabia wearing a cross around their neck and saying, "Thankyou Jesus" when they graduate.

|| Posted by Bert, March 30, 2010 10:53 AM ||

Did the student not know what University he was attending and what country it is in. I fault the student for stupidity and he does not deserve a diploma. Education at a University is for higher learning, this person slipped through the crack!

|| Posted by A. Bailey, March 30, 2010 01:41 PM ||

Bert, of course she knew what university she was attending. This is just another attack on Christianity by a muslim, part of their plan to insinuate islam into America. This is not stupidity, they have a long-range goal, and are working toward it inch by inch. Read up on it:,, tundratabloids,, Mark Steyn's "America Alone." "Londonistan." You can sit on the couch and watch Dancing with the Stars, or you can learn how we are under attack.

Think I am exaggerating? Google Bridget Bardot. She was fined repeatedly in France for criticizing islam. Check out "Fitna." It's on youtube. I do not believe America will wise up in time to prevent disaster.

|| Posted by Wayne, March 30, 2010 02:28 PM ||

And the declared majors of this group is what? "Future Federal Policy Wonk, and Hawaiin conference planner"?
Seriously, they never, ever, noticed anything religous on campus until a few months before graduation? What is the tax staus of this University? Should it be changed if they cave?

|| Posted by hutch1200, March 30, 2010 03:20 PM ||

I am a student at Trinity University, the school in question. Let me clear up some facts. Trinity was named Trinity because it was composed of three schools. It was not name after the holy trinity. Thus "from three, one".

Secondly, students want the options to have "In the Year of Our Lord" removed from their diploma, not every diploma. We want students who do not worship the Christian God to feel welcomed at our school and have the option to have it removed. We encourage diversity at our school and welcome people of all faiths, colors, genders, and sexualities. Why should we exclude those who are different? Even though Trinity was founded by Christian Schools we broke those ties years ago.

|| Posted by Trinity Student, March 30, 2010 03:41 PM ||

And I ask again, Trinity Student? Why stop at "In the Year of Our Lord"? What about that open Bible on the seal? What about the motto, which is a reference to the theological doctrine in addition to the history of the school? Can you still include A.D. on the diploma, given that "Anno Domini" means "In the Year of Our Lord"? Can you include the name of the city where your school is located, lest someone take offense at the Catholic practice of naming places for saints that they do not recognize? For that matter, what about the pagan origin of the names of many of our months? You have just got to take into account ALL THAT DIVERSITY and everyone who might be offended by any of those religious references. After all, you wouldn't want to discriminate against anybody, would you?

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 30, 2010 04:13 PM ||

No ones discriminating against anyone. However I find it rather suspect that people are making it a rather large issue, probably because the "perpetrator" or attacker against Christianity is Muslim. Granted she may not be Christian but she is not attacking Christianity. Originally, The movement she initiated was to provide every student graduating with the option of excluding "In the Year of Our Lord" from their Diploma. Granted the University is now making it a permanent change due to a variety of reasons. Also, I highly doubt that she "slipped through the cracks", this is a fairly selective university and is ranked second in undergraduate education quality in the state of Texas, by many education analysts, behind Rice University. Trinity University is no longer a Christian affiliated University, and the previous President accomplished this by severing ties from any religion.
Personally I don't judge people by their views, however I happen to 'know' her from an Upper Division Biology Course that she is currently enrolled in and although I have never spoken to her; I am aware that she is planning on attending medical school in the near future, upon graduation. I highly doubt that she would be Anti-Christian, especially factoring in that almost all of her patients will be Christian.

|| Posted by Another Concerned Trinity Student, March 30, 2010 05:19 PM ||

I would like to reiterate the statements from the above students at Trinity--the "attack" on Christianity here is nothing but spin--students at a university no longer directly affiliated with a Presbyterian denomination want to have the option to have a slight phrasing difference on their own diploma so that the diploma no longer implicitly others or excludes them.

For a non-Christian student of any stripe, "in the year of *Our* Lord" explicitly excludes and attempts to co-opt them and make them invisible.

Asking that it be removed on individual diplomas (the original proposal) or even all diplomas does not injure any Christian student--after all, no one is telling *them* that they have to accept being assumed to be Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish or atheist.

If there were a rule changing all of the the diplomas to imply that the recipients were Muslim, you would not find a student's desire to have it omitted from her diploma "overly PC"--you would be demanding that it be removed as offensive. And rightly so. So, how about you extend the same courtesy to others?

The Muslim-bashing here is a red herring and also profoundly unAmerican in its intolerant bigotry, and in the comments, near hysteria.

Also, the Constitution and Bill of Rights specifically exist in order to look after the rights and concerns of those in the minority--those in the majority have a vested interest in and the clout to protect themselves--but not to oppress or marginalize others.

Finally, kudos to our students for actually knowing and/or looking up the origin of the University name--something actual journalists and bloggers on the subject could learn from.

|| Posted by A member of the Trinity community, March 30, 2010 06:14 PM ||

I am an Alumnus from Trinity and I am personally offended and appalled that students and faculty of this University are even considering this action. The name of the University and every sign and letterhead have stood since the University was founded (on Christian doctrine.) I was asked/required to take at least one religious class as a student and I did it without complaint because I understood what the Univdersity seal meant. Now, we see the "real attack" coming home to roost! If you think this is the end of the matter for those who wish to destroy the American way of life, I suggest you go and talk to as many Muslims as I have. They do not speak kindly of the Muslim faith as we do...they were so afraid of retribution by those who claim to be doing the will of Allah that they left their birthplace and brought their families to the U.S. You sit idly by and claim stupidity or innocence of action as you allow them to steal or detract from our culture. I say this kindly, and with love...if you don't like something the way it was ORIGINALLY created, go somewhere else and find what you like! We are tired of people who claim innocence while they destroy what was created for a purpose on purpose.

|| Posted by David, March 30, 2010 06:15 PM ||

David, I am ashamed to hear that you graduated from Trinity. Firstly, the Muslim faith is also called Islam. Secondly, as with many of these articles critical of the actions, the author here fails to mention that Sidra and the petition originally requested an 'opt-out' of have 'our Lord' printed on the diploma. This entire ordeal has been caused by a decision on the part of the University.

Besides, if you don't like it, don't donate any more money. Simple as that. Besides, this is a school's internal affair. It only really affects the current students. I don't see why everybody is getting so riled up when they have no stake in the matter.

|| Posted by A Third Trinity Student, March 30, 2010 07:16 PM ||

As a recent Trinity alumna, I too am shocked to read David's comments. Trinity is an incredibly communal university, and values tolerance.

Just to clarify, it would be a stretch to call Trinity a Christian school, and I was not required to take a religion class or attend chapel although both were offered. (Along with Jewish services and Muslim and Sikh student groups.)

I see both sides, and it is good to know it is only being removed from the diplomas of students to whom the wording is offensive.

The article says otherwise, but I always thought the book on the seal was representative of academia not religion.

|| Posted by Another Trinity Alumni, March 30, 2010 08:50 PM ||

It's sad to see the Trinity students lack of understanding of the overall attack on Christianity. This could be the nicest person in the world, and that doesn't mean anything. The student requested an "opt out" as a single step in one of many thousands. As for people getting "so riled up" maybe that's because we see the issue in a larger context. When the Naziis took away a single Jewish adult male, hey, who cared? After all, it wasn't like they were taking away millions of Jews. Except, of course, that they eventually did.
A single attack, or a clever "opt out" clause, is just a clever way to wear down the society. The school was clearly established and supported for years and years by Christians. If a Moslem doesn't want certain words on their diploma, let them use white-out on it.

|| Posted by kevin barry, March 30, 2010 08:52 PM ||

And for the record, I made a point of not focusing on the faith of the complaining student. That a couple of Trinity students failed to note that here seems to me to be indicative of the low level of reading skills among current students.

But let's look at this again -- a traditional phrase that translates the customary designation of dates in the Western calendar system (AD -- Anno Domini) has become the source of controversy because some non-Christian students do not want it on their diploma and would prefer that it be removed from all diplomas rather than accept that which has been used for centuries in Western society out of deference to the Christian basis of that culture. Why? Because the complainers whine "I'm not a Christian, therefore I should not have to be confronted with the site of anything Christian." And that, my friends, is fundamentally anti-Christian -- and I would say that whether the leader of the Movement were a Jew, a Buddhist, a Hindu, or an atheist, not merely in the case of a Muslim.

And beyond that, I ask again -- where is the principled stopping point if this demand is granted?

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 30, 2010 08:58 PM ||

Oh, and why do some of us outside of Trinity care? because we recognize that this is simply one step on a path that leads not to religious tolerance, but to intolerance of religion, in particular of Christianity, by those hostile to such expression. Sadly, many good folks will be duped into supporting such steps in the name of "sensitivity" and "diversity" -- and will one day look back and see where they have cooperated in the removal of important cultural artifacts and elements when they did so -- but it will be too late to undo the damage that has been done.

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 30, 2010 09:03 PM ||

Rhymes with Right - I am a Christian student currently at Trinity. However, when I first attended Trinity I never expected it to be a Christian campus, because they don't advertise it to be. The Trinity students behind this proposal are simply asking to change the wording "Our Lord" because they don't recognize Christ as their Lord. They are not be intolerant, as many other tradition like our Easter Vespers are very rooted in our Christian traditions. I know the leading people in this movement just want to be able to display their diploma without feeling as if they are betraying their own faith. Nothing could be counted wrong in that.

|| Posted by Trinity Student #4, March 30, 2010 09:45 PM ||

Even if one assumes the best of motives on their part (and I do not take a position either way in that regard), you are still left with my points above -- points which you do nothing to answer.

I'm curious -- if the University changes the date to 2010 A.D, will they be less offended -- even though Anno Domini means "In the Year of Our Lord"?

What happens when someone objects to the Trinitarian formula on the school seal on the same basis?

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 30, 2010 09:55 PM ||

Rhymes with Right - You bring up the point that they might change it to "A.D.", but you forget that it might changed it to CE, a dating acronym used instead of AD.

Also, you bring up the point of the University seal. The seal says "E Tribus Unum" which translates to "From Three, One". As I said earlier this means "from three schools, to make one school". Not from three gods to one god. Also, "the Bible with its heavenly rays" is a symbol for a book with knowledge pouring out of it. This is an academic, not a religiously affiliated institution. I do not know when the seal was designed but I do not think it was designed in the 1800s.

|| Posted by Trinity Student, March 30, 2010 10:20 PM ||

"Trinity respects its historic ties to the Presbyterian Church, with which it continues to have a covenant relationship."

Seems more like they've been taken over by the Unitarians.

|| Posted by Mr. Bingley, March 31, 2010 04:35 AM ||

And it seems like Trinity students know less and less about their own school, its affiliations, and its own symbols and traditions.

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 31, 2010 04:43 AM ||

The reality is that whether it be the Trinity students on this forum or those from the Left, this is but one more example of the further generational separation from the religious foundation this country was founded on. Whether it is the misuse of the Separation of Church & State, the ridiculous notation of changing B.C./A.D., or a Muslim student being insulted by the phrase on a diploma of a school he/she voluntarily chose to attend, this pervasive movement of presentism is eroding away the foundational integrity of this great country. In a somewhat literal and somewhat figurative meaning, our country is being taken over by minority views. If their feelings get hurt, views overlooked, or influence on others minimized, the majority are the ones that are punished for their slight. I hope they are teaching Chinese at TU because two more regressive generational steps and this country will fall without as much as a whimper.

|| Posted by Robert from Kingwood, March 31, 2010 08:26 AM ||

So, what ever happened to majority rules? Why is it that we have to make accomodations for every single minority based case! We as a country cannot continue to make accomodations for every single thing that comes along when one person or ten out of 10 thousand say they are not happy with how we do things. Did you see the article where a guy in Britain said he is a practising member Jediism and as such his "religious" beliefs say he doesn't need to remove his hood at work. Guess who won that fight, yea, the Jedi. Political Correctness will be the death of us all.

|| Posted by Rory, March 31, 2010 08:40 AM ||

Didn't Jesus preach about putting others before yourself or accepting other people? Or was he a bigot too? Maybe you are just a hypocrite.

Its your Mom calling, and she is here to beat your ass.

|| Posted by YourMom, March 31, 2010 09:45 AM ||

Why do they want to change the diploma halfway? Shouldn't it read "During the 2010th year after nothing in particular happened, this recipient was graduated from Threeway University in Big Tony, Texas"?

|| Posted by bgates, March 31, 2010 10:33 AM ||

Sidra Qureshi has no 'AUTHORITY' to come to OUR country, enroll in one of OUR Universities, and then expect US to CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIVING AND BELIEVING JUST TO ACCOMMODATE HIS OR HER LIFESTYLE. DIVERSITY IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR CULTURAL FACISM and it should NOT be tolerated in
OUR country, in OUR schools, in OUR workplace, and in OUR places of worship.Democracy does not mean that we 'change' to please others, and Texas is the last place that should have to put up with
demands for changing OUR ways.Qureshi should change schools of just shut up and throw the diploma one it is given if the wording is not pleasing. Quit your bitching, Qureshi!!!!!!!

|| Posted by Susan Grant, March 31, 2010 11:15 AM ||

Let's try a reasonability test.

For example:

Would it be reasonable for an American student, of Christian background,to expect Riyahd's King Saud University to drop any reference to Allah or

Should the student feel victimized if he didn't get his way?

|| Posted by F DeWald, March 31, 2010 12:04 PM ||

Given that one of my commenters is taking quotes from the school's own website to refute the assertions made by those students, I can make such an assertion with certainty.

And pray tell, what are my "religious and political views" that you are so certain you can guess?

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, March 31, 2010 03:35 PM ||

The purpose of PC is not and has never been to foster understanding or promote tolerance. Its sole purpose is to destroy western civilization by attacking its culture. It is a direct manifestation of Gramscian Marxism.

The atheist students and those who come from other faiths knew full and well what this university was about when they chose to attend. If they want a degree that doesn't include religious symbols (or contains those of other religions), then I suggest they pursue their education elsewhere.

I do find it particularly amusing that a Muslim would object to the wording given that Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam. This would be akin to a Christian objecting their diploma citing an prophet from the old testament. For Muslims Mohammed is the last and ultimate prophet, but not the only one. I rather suspect that this person is a MINO whose true inspiration comes from Marx, not Mohammed.

I do hope that the trustees of this university tell these pricks where to go and have the courage to reject whose who are waging cultural war upon them.

The leftists always make small demands, at least at first. They demand that you compromise your integrity with the promise that they will go away if you do. They won't, and even if they did such a diabolical bargain isn't worth it. Stand by what you believe. Do no capitulate to whiny Marxists whose ultimate goal is your destruction. They are the enemy and should be treated accordingly.

|| Posted by Lee, April 1, 2010 10:12 AM ||

I go to this school and am a Christian but I fully support this change. Trinity University is NOT a religious school. Yes, at one point in history, we were religiously based. This is not the case anymore. We do not advertise ourselves as religious, we have a variety of religious services, and we try to welcome other cultures and beliefs. You have no right to speak against a student who does not want Christianity brought into her schooling. She did NOT choose a Christian school; she choose Trinity University, a school that prides itself on the diversity of its students.

|| Posted by Trinity Student, April 1, 2010 05:22 PM ||

Well, I think that this phrase from the last comment is quite telling -- You have no right to speak...


I have no riht to speak?

What of your commitment to diversity and tolerance? Are you telling me that there are some views that you don't believe have a right to be expressed? That there are some groups of people with fewer rights than other groups of people? That points of view contrary to yours are of less value than those congruent with yours? And that those who defend the cultural traditions of Western civilization -- indeed, who defend the expression of the ideas and values held by those who founded Trinity and its predecessor institutions -- are not entitled to the express them because they are contrary to the views of those who are "diverse"? Shameful!

|| Posted by Rhymes With Right, April 1, 2010 11:26 PM ||

I graduated from Trinity a fews years ago. It is not a religious institution and is actually quite liberal. I received an excellent education there and have only fond memories.

I am a Christian, but did not choose Trinity for this reason.

My biggest concern with this is that part of getting an education is learning to function in the society in which you live. Since moving to Argentina 4 years ago, I have realized that the ONE thing we are not taught in the US is to go with the flow; we are soooo caught up in ourselves and our OWN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS that we fail to learn to go along with a majority on certain things that are not life- or liberty-threatening. Sometimes in life, you don't get your way and exceptions are not made for everyone in every situation.

I personally do not a problem if students want to choose to have the phrase on their diploma or not. I do not think the school should change it for all students unless they have a vote and the majority wins. I am really just concerned about coddling a generation of spoiled self-concerned brats (to which I surely belong{ed} before moving abroad) who complain about everything and expect people to change everything just because they are "offended." Get over it, I'm offended every day of my life, learning to accept and move on in a positive way is what's important and THAT is how you become successful in a diverse world.

|| Posted by A Trinity Alumnus living abroad, April 3, 2010 11:23 AM ||

When the institution has other non Christian students like Sikhs,Buddhists,Jews,Hindus,and Mormons, why only the MUSLIM students take this unwanted demand from the University? When a Christian cannot carry a bible on the streets of Saudi Arabia,and will be arrested for that,why should we bend for them to ride every time?First, let them allow building of churches in Saudi Arabia-then we can consider changing any thing to suit their fancies here.

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